Re: What kind of case?

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From: Newtechie (newtechie_at_nospam.com)
Date: 02/03/05


Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 00:17:04 -0600

I have run into a small problem. I can't figure out the connections with
the case fans. On the motherboard, there's two 3-pin connectors - one is
for system fan and the other is for power fan. In my Thermaltake case,
there are 3 fans: front, rear, and on the side door. For the front and
rear fans, how do I know which one to connect goes with the power or system
connector? I'm not for sure about the side door fan either as it has 2 IDE
power wires. Does this connect directly to the power supply?

"Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote in message
news:u83$R6aCFHA.960@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> As long as there is no power applied, you can't short
> anything. When I did mine, I put the mobo in the case, with
> the ports aligned to the back panel. Then I used a Magic
> Marker to mark the holes on the case. The goal is to fully
> support the mobo and not have anything touching the backside
> of the mobo that could short it out. That means no screws
> left to rattle around too.
>
> When you get it assembled, double check that all the fans
> are connected correctly and connect the monitor, keyboard
> and mouse. Turn it on and it should perform the POST (power
> on self test) and then display(turned ON too) the message
> that there is no operating system installed. It will have
> some beeps on the way as it does that. Check the BIOS setup,
> make sure the CD is the first device for boot order. Insert
> the XP CD and reboot it, just press the power switch twice.
> It will detect the XP CD (make sure the BIOS is set to first
> boot device)
>
> Follow the prompts. As soon as XP is loaded, install the
> mobo drivers that come on the CD with the mobo. Just have
> the bare bones, no printers, scanners or other devices
> connected until later.
> Then, created your Internet connection, turn the firewall
> ON, and do Windows update.
> Then install any additional hardware, applications and when
> the system is running properly, install your backed up data.
> It is best to do one item at a time so you know what is
> causing problems should any happen.
>
>
> "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:%23256NwaCFHA.1396@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> | Jim -
> |
> | Ok - I assembled the motherboard on a sheet on a table. I
> have the CPU and
> | ram connected to the motherboard. Since I don't have the
> power supply or
> | video card, I can't test it to see if it starts up. I had
> to figure out for
> | myself where the holes on the motherboard aligned with the
> holes on the
> | metal case because it didn't say in the manual. I think
> the motherboard
> | probably touched the metal case just a little as I had to
> use it to find out
> | exactly where to place the standoffs. Do you think I
> could have shorten the
> | mobo even if the power supply or anything else wasn't
> connected? Is there a
> | way of testing it?
> |
> | Newtechie
> |
> |
> |
> | "Jim Macklin" <p51mustang[threeX12]@xxxhotmail.calm> wrote
> in message
> | news:OpirA8OCFHA.3120@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> | > Stand-offs came with the ANTEC cases I have used, over a
> | > dozen. The mobo has mounting holes, the mobo manual
> will
> | > show which holes to use. You should have every mounting
> | > hole on the mobo used. It may be as few as 5 and as
> many as
> | > a dozen, depends on the mobo.
> | >
> | >
> | > --
> | > The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
> | > But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
> | >
> | >
> | > "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
> | > news:u1heYaOCFHA.2380@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> | > | Thanks Peters! I have been reading Tom's
> hardware.com.
> | > Very informative I
> | > | must say and there are a couple of video clips on some
> | > things. Do you know
> | > | which site you were used as your guide?
> | > |
> | > | As far as the stand offs, do you know how many you
> used in
> | > total? Did they
> | > | come with the case or motherboard?
> | > |
> | > | Newtechie
> | > |
> | > | "peter" <peter@nomalarky.ca> wrote in message
> | > | news:OGDp9HOCFHA.3696@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> | > | > The stand offs worried me as well and they actually
> were
> | > the hardest part
> | > | > of the whole process.
> | > | > Determining where to srew them on the Mobo tray was
> not
> | > the problem...the
> | > | > problem was holding those damn little screws with a
> non
> | > magnetic
> | > | > screwdriver and getting them in those small holes.It
> | > took patience and a
> | > | > few Beers and Cigarettes to finally get them all
> in.Then
> | > I proceeded to
> | > | > add the rest of the components.
> | > | > Before I started I did a Google on Computer builds
> and
> | > came up with some
> | > | > really good websites... very detailed pictures and
> | > videos.
> | > | > Might I suggest you do that??
> | > | > peter
> | > | > "Newtechie" <newtechie@nospam.com> wrote in message
> | > | > news:uzrhknBCFHA.1404@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> | > | >> Leythos,
> | > | >>
> | > | >> Which are better? metal or plastic?
> | > | >>
> | > | >> Newtechie
> | > | >>
> | > | >>
> | > | >> "Leythos" <void@nowhere.lan> wrote in message
> | > | >> news:pan.2005.02.01.03.27.55.176466@nowhere.lan...
> | > | >>> On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 21:20:35 -0600, Newtechie
> wrote:
> | > | >>>
> | > | >>>> Thanks Jim! I am pre-planning as we speak. I
> have
> | > an old computer
> | > | >>>> which
> | > | >>>> I'm practicing on so hopefully that'll help. Is
> | > there a way to keep
> | > | >>>> the
> | > | >>>> backside of the motherboard from touching the
> case?
> | > | >>>
> | > | >>> Since you won't have POWER turned on, and the
> power
> | > cord will NOT be
> | > | >>> connected to the PSU, if the MB touches the case
> | > during install you
> | > | >>> won't
> | > | >>> have a problem.
> | > | >>>
> | > | >>> You just need to make sure that you put as many
> | > stand-off screws in the
> | > | >>> motherboard as you did stand-offs on the metal
> | > backplate. You might also
> | > | >>> consider some of the plastic stand-off types in
> some
> | > locations if you
> | > | >>> run
> | > | >>> out of metal ones.
> | > | >>>
> | > | >>> One last thing - make sure you use the right
> screws -
> | > you DO NOT want
> | > | >>> the
> | > | >>> screw head going past the round doughnut pad
> around
> | > the hole - certainly
> | > | >>> not so that it touches any electrical circuits.
> | > | >>>
> | > | >>>
> | > | >>> --
> | > | >>> spam999free@rrohio.com
> | > | >>> remove 999 in order to email me
> | > | >>>
> | > | >>
> | > | >>
> | > | >
> | > | >
> | > |
> | > |
> | >
> | >
> |
> |
>
>



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