Re: 9800 all-in-wonder pro

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From: Rube (dont_at_spam.me)
Date: 01/07/05 

Date: Thu, 6 Jan 2005 17:53:57 -0800

Good points Michael. I whole heartedly agree.

It seems my follow-up post is causing more concern than my initial reply to
the OP. My response to Rob was simply a suggestion on what to try next. He
already killed his card. Rob already exceeded the boundaries of what you
would suggest someone do in his situation. It seems to me a possible
solution on this "other" side might be appropriate. Doing what I suggested
wouldn't kill it more. If it failed, he could still attempt to send it to
ATI or Sapphire in a similar state that is in right now. My response to
namniar contained the reference to the modding community and was directed at
him/her, not Rob, or others of his experience level.

But either way, I think this thread has run its course.

"Michael Solomon (MS-MVP)" <user@#notme.com> wrote in message
news:%23SGf0z58EHA.3840@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Rube, first I thank you for specifically excluding me in your initial
> response.
>
> Second, since this is an open community with a lot of users who are
novices
> or novice to intermediate users, I think you'd agree, most of them don't
> fall into the "wring" every ounce of performance category. For their
> benefit, since these are peer to peer groups, I do think it is important
to
> stress, flashing the BIOS of a graphics card is quite a bit out of the
> ordinary, can be quite dangerous as exemplified by the OP and is not
> something most users need to do and most users don't.
>
> I don't think we want to be giving the impression this is something most
> users should even consider especially given the symptoms in the OP. Even
> for the knowledgeable user who has the experience of doing this, I'd
> strongly recommend it be a last resort, one taken only after ruling out
all
> other possibilities insofar as the situation described in the OP.
>
> --
> Michael Solomon MS-MVP
> Windows Shell/User
> Backup is a PC User's Best Friend
> DTS-L.Org: http://www.dts-l.org/
>
> "Rube" <dont@spam.me> wrote in message
> news:%23iYlNY18EHA.1524@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > First of all, why would he need the obvious pointed out? Second, your
> > ignorance of an entire community that's sole purpose is to wring every
> > last
> > drop of performance out of a piece of hardware is your problem, not his
> > (or
> > mine.) What you call faith, I call knowledge. I've flashed many video
> > bios'
> > myself and am currently running an alternate bios. Yes, I voided my
> > warranty, but I saved $200 & got the performance for "free."
> > Thirdly, why are you advising to send it to ATI when you KNOW they won't
> > service it? Flashing the BIOS is a guarantee that they won't even help
him
> > out, even if he offered to pay for it.
> > Finally, I'm pretty sure you consider his "learned lesson" as that of a
> > scolded puppy, as in he won't be doing that anymore. I, on the other
hand
> > am
> > pointing out that not all is lost. He probably feels bad enough at
hosing
> > his card in the first place, no need to rub salt in the wounds. . .
> > Maybe people should remember the spirit of these forums is to help.
> >
> >
> > "namniar" <this@that> wrote in message
> > news:eQU4S908EHA.2012@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> >> Rube, I was merely pointing out the obvious. Why on earth would you
put
> >> your faith (and money) in an update created by whomever without
> >> contacting
> >> the manufacturer of the product for assistance / warranty, and to
> >> properly
> >> explore less drastic options first. In my opinion he went to the "last
> >> resort" option first and learned a valuable lesson.
> >>
> >> I also stand by my assistance to his situation: Send it to ATI for a
> > proper
> >> non-warranty repair.
> >>
> >> P.S. you are out of line.
> >>
> >> r.
> >>
> >> "Rube" <dont@spam.me> wrote in message
> >> news:u34Jxg08EHA.3076@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> >> > Since the other responders are a$$holes (aside from Michael) and are
> >> > offering nothing but contempt, I will try to offer some help. When
> >> > flashing
> >> > an AGP card's bios, a common practice among modders is to install a
PCI
> >> > video card as a backup. When the AGP card dies, the system will see
the
> >> > PCI
> >> > and still boot & run windows. You can find them online (or at
computer
> >> > shows) for as cheap as $10.
> >> >
> >> > When you have a PCI card in your system & can get it booting again
> >> > (with
> >> > the
> >> > AGP card still in) go to www.rojakpot.com . This site has lots of
info
> > on
> >> > flashing ATI bios', especially where to find them.
> >> >
> >> > GL!
> >> >
> >> > "Rob" <yung.robert@northropgrumman.ca> wrote in message
> >> > news:c65575c8.0501040629.474339d9@posting.google.com...
> >> >> HELP!!
> >> >>
> >> >> I am having huge problems with my 9800 pro aiw card. When it boots
> >> >> up, everything is fine until it has to display any color. When it
has
> >> >> to display color, I get all these lines on the screen and the colors
> >> >> are all screwed up. I suspected hardware failure, but I wanted to
try
> >> >> to fix it. I followed the instructions at:
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3327
> >> >>
> >> >> to try to re-flash my 9800 bios. Unfortunetly I missed the step
about
> >> >> backing up my bios (I KNOW I KNOW) and now my card is non-functional
> >> >> all together. My question is.. is there anyone out there with a
> >> >> All-in-wonder 9800 pro that can connect me with a copy of their
bios?
> >> >> I need to find my original bios so that I can put it back on the
> >> >> card... :(((
> >> >>
> >> >> The instructions on how to extract your bios is on that webpage.. I
> >> >> know its a stretch.. but am hoping someone will be kind enough to
help
> >> >> me out...
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks so much!
> >> >> Rob
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

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