Re: Windows bootloader/MSI KM2M conflict

From: R. C. White (rc_at_corridor.net)
Date: 12/24/04


Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2004 15:28:39 -0600

Hi, Tom.

> I have not tried Repair installation from the XP install CD because I'm
> afraid it will destroy my parents' settings and they don't want to lose
> them. Is this reasonable?

At the risk of "piling on", let me join the chorus: "In-place upgrade, also
known as a repair install." But let me add a couple of points...first the
"why" and then an assurance that your parents won't need to reinstall
everything.

When WinXP Setup runs, one of the first things that it does is detect your
hardware configuration. Then it customizes YOUR copy of WinXP to fit that
hardware. If a significant part of the hardware changes (and a
motherboard/chipset certainly qualifies as significant!) the Setup must be
allowed to run again to redetect the new configuration and re-customize your
copy of WinXP to fit the new environment. To WinXP, there's not much
difference between (1) moving a hard drive into a different computer and
(2)moving a new motherboard into the existing computer with the old hard
drive. Either way, the mobo/HD/chipset combination has changed and requires
reconfiguring WinXP, and the only way to do that is to run Setup again - in
other words, to reinstall WinXP.

The in-place upgrade will reinstall WinXP itself, but preserve existing
applications and data - and most of the tweaks. Many users (including
myself several times) have done the in-place upgrade and I don't recall any
who have reported loss of apps or data in the process. We can't guarantee,
though, that you won't have a power failure in the middle of the job, so a
backup is always a good idea.

In addition to the references the others supplied, here's Microsoft's
official version of how to do it:
How to perform an in-place upgrade (reinstallation) of Windows XP
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q315341

Use Method 2 and note that you don't press "R" the first time it's offered,
in Step 3. Press Enter at that point and press "R" in Step 5. If it has
been less than 120 days since that copy of WinXP has been activated, you may
need to activate it again, but that step should be painless.

Also you need to be sure SP2 is installed after the reinstallation, as Malke
said. If it is included in their WinXP CD, it will be handled
automatically; otherwise, you'll have to install it again after the in-place
upgrade, which will reinstall the version on their CD (either the original
2001 version or the version including SP1 or SP1a).

RC

-- 
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@corridor.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
"Tom" <g@thecap.org> wrote in message 
news:1103902133.332910.81390@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> My parents have a 300MHz Pentium 2 with a 40GB Maxtor IDE holding a
> single NTFS partition with Windows XP Pro. I am trying to move them to
> a MSI KM2M motherboard with a AMD XP 2100, but Windows stops booting
> with the "Error loading operating system" message.
>
> All the following produce the same message:
> - 2 different video cards (AGP and PCI)
> - 2 different SDR RAMs. Both were operating okay on the old board and
> each passed the slow BIOS check on the new board.
> - Changing every BIOS option I can find in different combinations.
> Disabled cache, disabled any not-ide built in hardware, disabled UDMA.
> Resetting to "Fail-safe" default settings, resetting using the CMOS
> memory clear jumper
> - Running fixboot and fixmbr in Windows Recovery Console. (fixmbr
> didn't change a single byte in the first 512 of the disk according to
> snapshots taken in Linux)
> - Moving the Maxtor to [secondary IDE,master] and then starting Windows
> from lilo running on a different drive (with options other=/dev/hdc
> master-boot)
> - Reading
> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;326676 , the
> board has Award BIOS 6.0 and no option to disable LDB
>
> After all of this I tried the drive with the old motherboard and it
> still works the same as always.
>
> Physically the drive is fine. Using Linux I can grab random bytes from
> the disk and it looks okay. I'm not sure why Windows can't load from
> it, but have stopped short of disassembling the MS boot loader because
> I don't know anything about BIOS calls.
>
> I have not tried Repair installation from the XP install CD because I'm
> afraid it will destroy my parents' settings and they don't want to lose
> them. Is this reasonable?
>
> Any hints would be great. I don't want to leave my parents using a PII
> 300MHz when an 1.7GHz is in their house, but I'm flying out in about a
> day.
>
> Thank you and have a happy Dec 24,
> Tom 


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