Re: Win XP reports no floppy & no CD??????

From: R. C. White (rc_at_corridor.net)
Date: 12/16/04


Date: Wed, 15 Dec 2004 20:40:33 -0600

Hi, Stan.

Thanks for the report back. Congratulations on your success! ;<)

That's one I never would have figured out because I know nothing at all
about Alcohol, although I have heard the name a couple of times. I'm glad
your process of elimination finally uncovered the problem.

Now, Enjoy WinXP! ;<)

RC

-- 
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@corridor.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
"Stan Kay" <stan.kay@ntlworld.com> wrote in message 
news:O65iAkt4EHA.1408@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Hi RC,
>
> I have now tried an "in place upgrade" but that failed to too.  As a 
> result of all my failed attempts I concluded ( just a wild guess!) that 
> there must be a driver conflict causing this problem so decided to see 
> what effect there was from removing applications one by one and 
> re-booting.  Eventually, I found that removing Alcohol 120 fixed the 
> problem.  Subseqeuntly, a visit to the forums on the Alcohol web site 
> revealed that this is is registered as a problem when Adaptec products are 
> present.  I discovered that the key is to install Alcohol 120 AFTER 
> everything else is installed.  During the Alcohol installation process up 
> pops a message that Windows has found a new SCSI device (i.e. Alcohol has 
> over written the driver but Windows then identifies the SCSI controller 
> again and re-instals the drivers).  The Alcohol installation process then 
> pauses whilst the SCSI driver re-installation takes place and then 
> completes it's installation. Subseqeuntly everything works fine.
>
> So, many thanks to everyone who has offered help and I hope my experiences 
> and solution may be of value to others.
>
>
> "R. C. White" <rc@corridor.net> wrote in message 
> news:eD0fEpg4EHA.3376@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> Hi, Stan.
>>
>> Adaptec SCSI?  Me, too.  But my only remaining SCSI device is my IBM HD 
>> (a humongous <g> 9 GB model), which is my boot device.  My first several 
>> CD-ROMs were SCSI, but both current DVDs are IDE models.
>>
>> My first reaction when I saw your mention of SCSI was that you might have 
>> the CD disabled in the SCSI BIOS, but then I remembered that you earlier 
>> said that it appears during POST, so there goes that idea.  Besides, if I 
>> read your last post correctly, your CD is an IDE device, not SCSI.
>>
>> The floppy is not supposed to show up in Disk Management, but there 
>> should be two lines in Device Manager, one for the FDD controller and one 
>> for the drive.
>>
>> The CD/DVD definitely should show up in both Device Manager and Disk 
>> Management.  Sometimes a new HDD needs to be "initialized", but this 
>> should not apply to the CD/DVD.  Sometimes I'm startled when I open Disk 
>> Management and don't see all of my CDs, but then I realize that I just 
>> need to scroll down.  With my many HD volumes, flash drive, etc., the 
>> Graphical View sometimes is too large to show without scrolling.
>>
>> If you must reinstall, you might want to do an "in-place upgrade".  This 
>> will reinstall WinXP itself, but preserve your existing applications and 
>> data.  If your WinXP CD-ROM does not include SP2, you'll need to add that 
>> after the reinstallation.  Still, this should cut your reinstallation 
>> time from a full day to less than a half-day, maybe a couple of hours. 
>> Microsoft's instructions are in this KB article:
>> How to perform an in-place upgrade (reinstallation) of Windows XP
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q315341
>>
>> Keep us posted on your progress.  I haven't seen this problem reported 
>> before.
>>
>> RC
>> -- 
>> R. C. White, CPA
>> San Marcos, TX
>> rc@corridor.net
>> Microsoft Windows MVP
>>
>> "Stan Kay" <stan.kay@ntlworld.com> wrote in message 
>> news:etu35Hg4EHA.3416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>> Hi RC,
>>>
>>> Neither the floppy nor the CD/DVD show up in Disk Management and I do 
>>> not, and have never, used TweakUI.  But thank you for the suggestion.  I 
>>> have also been told via another source that Nero often conflicts with 
>>> Adaptec to cause exactly this problem.  However, altough I do have 
>>> Adaptec products (SCSI controller and drives only) I do not have Nero 
>>> and so that cannot be the cause of the problem either.
>>>
>>> I shall continue to search and will post back a solution if I find one. 
>>> However, a complete re-install takes about a day (operating system and 
>>> all software etc) so if I have no solution by tomorrow then I will 
>>> perform a clean instal of Windows.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "R. C. White" <rc@corridor.net> wrote in message 
>>> news:%23iKxnCg4EHA.1976@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>> Hi, Stan.
>>>>
>>>> Does the CD/DVD drive show up in Disk Management?
>>>>
>>>> Are you using TweakUI?  That offers a setting to not display specific 
>>>> drives; some users (including myself) have used this and then forgotten 
>>>> we did it.  <blush>  They should still show up in Device Manager, 
>>>> though.
>>>>
>>>> RC
>>>>
>>>> "Stan Kay" <stan.kay@ntlworld.com> wrote in message 
>>>> news:OmSG06f4EHA.3416@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>>>>> That was the first thing I did when Windows failed to show the floppy 
>>>>> and the DVD drive.  Bios shows that both exist and both appear 
>>>>> correctly during POST.  Moreover, if I insert a bootable floppy of a 
>>>>> bootable CD/DVD then both work during boot up!
>>>>>
>>>>> In essence, the problems is with Windows XP Pro SP2 not recognising 
>>>>> that the removable drives exist.  The real interesting thing is that 
>>>>> both devices are present in Windows registry but Windows still does 
>>>>> not recognise them!
>>>>>
>>>>> "Yves Leclerc" <yleclercNOSPAM@maysys.com> wrote in message 
>>>>> news:OI0fsme4EHA.2568@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
>>>>>> Check in the BIOS set up to see if the floppy drive is enabled.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also check to see if the IDE/SATA channel is enabled in the BIOS so 
>>>>>> that XP can find the DVD drive.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Stan Kay" <stan.kay@ntlworld.com> wrote in message 
>>>>>> news:%230yB5Md4EHA.3092@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>>>>>>>I have just upgraded my Win XP Pro installation to SP2 and everything 
>>>>>>>worked fine after re-booting until I noticed that Explorer does not 
>>>>>>>show my floppy drive or DVD drive nor do these devices appear in 
>>>>>>>Device Manager.  I have tried rebooting to see if the system 
>>>>>>>identifies them but this does not work. I have even done an iupgrade 
>>>>>>>re-instal of windows but that does not help either.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can anyone please offer some suggestions before I resort to clean 
>>>>>>> instal?
>>
>
> 


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