Re: Install 2nd (old, ata) hard drive on sata machine ..
From: Paul Seaton (NOpaulseatonSPAM_at_paulseaton.com)
Date: 12/04/04
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Date: Sat, 04 Dec 2004 02:00:03 GMT
"R. C. White" <rc@corridor.net> wrote in message
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> Hi, Paul.
>
> Maybe I can help just a little. My mobo has SATA and PATA connectors. I
> have NO SATA drives, just 2 PATAs plus a single SCSI drive connected to an
> Adaptec SCSI host adapter. The SCSI drive is normally my boot device.
>
> > I read a lot on this ng & elsewhere about having to load the xp drivers
> > for
> > SATA from a floppy by hitting F6 etc etc.. but if there is already one
> > functional SATA drive in there (which there is) , presumably I don't
have
> > to
> > do this again for the second HD ??
R.C. ,
>
> The F6 procedure is needed only for the BOOT device. Since you are
already
> booting from your SATA drive, you are already past that bottleneck.
Excellent. I learned something. Thanks.
A
> secondary drive that will not be used to boot the computer does not need
> this. Its drivers can be installed like other devices: by letting WinXP
> detect it if it's plug-n-play, or from a CD or other media it's not.
>
> I haven't tried an ATA/SATA adapter, so I can't guess why your drive is
not
> recognized when connected this way. I haven't seen a mobo without two
> single PATA channels, even if it has SATA, too.
It's a Dell Dimension 8400.
One ATA channel. (has both CD /DVD drives on it )
Four SATA.
One floppy channel.
>
> > (Yes the BIOS is configured with the relevant SATA MB input
> > 'active' )
>
> You said you jumpered the drive as Master. Have you tried it as Cable
> Select?
Not yet.
I've been staring at that ATA hard drive thinking 'I'm going to try again
with you' for about a week.
But since I always end up having a nervous breakdown at around 3 am after 8
hours futile messing around, I need to store some positive energy first ..
:-)
>
> How many SATA connectors does your mobo have?
Four.
Mine (EPoX 8KDA3+) actually
> has six! Two (SATA1 and SATA2) are "standard equipment" and their
> connectors are near the AGP slot on the mobo. The other 4 are "optional"
> and are located near the lower right corner of the mobo, near the
"optional"
> Silicon Image SiI3114 S-ATA controller chip. Since I have no SATA drives,
> I've not had to learn how to enable all these connectors, but I would
guess
> that I will have to enable the standard and the optional groups
separately.
It's easy to enable them in 'SETUP' in the BIOS.
Just that a newly enabled #2 SATA connection just doesn't seem to get
enabled, in so far as the BIOS still can't see the drive.
Maybe the ATA/SATA adapter is flaky ?
But I have no way to test that, & it's unlikely, I would think.
> Are you sure you don't need to enable that second connector separately?
That's what I did.
Explicitly, in SETUP.
Doesn't seem to help.
>
> Do you need to install a driver for that second SATA connector?
Maybe I need to, but I haven't, as yet.
The Dell documentation for installing 2nd SATA HD just says plug it in &
enable the connection in the BIOS.
Done that.
My ATA - posing-as-SATA drive should be appearing to the MB as SATA, I guess
?
But it's appearing as ... nothing.
I'll check the MB CD ( assuming Dell gave me one....)
Did you get
> a CD-ROM with drivers on it? My mobo came with a CD-ROM containing
drivers
> for several functions: on-board sound, on-board LAN, SATA RAID, USB 2.0,
> etc.
I'll try 'cable select' & check the MB CD for drivers / more documentation.
>
> I hope some of this is useful to you. ;^}
Sure, thanks v much for the suggestions.
I'll let you know what results..
Regards,
-- Paul Seaton > > RC > -- > R. C. White, CPA > San Marcos, TX > rc@corridor.net > Microsoft Windows MVP > > "Paul Seaton" <NOpaulseatonSPAM@paulseaton.com> wrote in message > news:fk0sd.70012$F7.63685@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk... > > > > > > Hi > > > > I have a Dell Dimension 8400 with a single SATA hard drive. > > I want to install a second hard drive, & I want to use a 120 Gb *ATA* hard > > drive I have lying around for this purpose. > > ( I cannot just install it on the IDE controllers as the 2 CD/DVD ROM > > drives > > use the only PATA channel there is. The Dell has 4 SATA connectors on the > > MB, thus 3 spare ) > > > > I have (foolishly ??) bought an ATA/SATA adapter that claims to enable > > connection of ATA HD to SATA motherboard. > > > > OK, I fit the adapter, connect everything up, and - the BIOS doesn't find > > this 2nd drive. (Yes the BIOS is configured with the relevant SATA MB > > input > > 'active' ) > > > > I read a lot on this ng & elsewhere about having to load the xp drivers > > for > > SATA from a floppy by hitting F6 etc etc.. but if there is already one > > functional SATA drive in there (which there is) , presumably I don't have > > to > > do this again for the second HD ?? > > > > There is loads of material around about installing xp onto a SATA HD, but > > none - that I can find - that helps me with this. > > > > Should I just give up & dump my shiny ATA drive & buy a SATA one ?? > > > > Help appreciated. > > > > > > -- > > Paul Seaton >
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