Re: :: WEIRDDD ... any help plz
From: thepeartree (thepeartree_at_discussions.microsoft.com)
Date: 11/01/04
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Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 05:48:03 -0800
Frankly, it sounds like the video card in his buddy's machine was going bad
and now has done untold damage in BOTH machines.
All I can add to your answer to Snyper7 is: Make darn sure you have an
anti-static wrist strap on while doing all this swapping and testing. I've
seen a lot of machines for repair where the owners didn't think that 'old
wives tale' was valid any more.
"D.Currie" wrote:
> This is why I always have work. You had one computer with a simple problem,
> and now you have 2 computers with what may be more serious problems.
>
> First thing: it's never a good idea to start testing components that you
> might think are bad in a computer that you actually care about and want to
> run. And swapping out parts willy-nilly isn't a good idea either. If
> something was fried to begin with, you could have damaged the new
> components, too.
>
> First, put BOTH computers back to the way they were to begin with. Double
> and triple check EVERYTHING before you turn it on. Are all the jumpers
> correct? Are all the cards & cables seated properly? Is the right ram in the
> right computer? Did you make sure none of the pins on the processor are
> bent? If you removed the heat sink from the processor or jarred it loose at
> all, did you take off the old thermal component and apply a proper amount of
> NEW thermal paste or a new pad? And while you were doing all of this parts
> swapping, were you careful not to static shock anything? Something that
> might have been fine before you started might well be dead now.
>
> Once you're absolutely sure everything is correct, snug, not bent or
> damaged, check again. Have your friend look at it, and make sure everything
> is plugged in nice and snug.
>
> Then plug in one of the computers and see what happens. If it doesn't get to
> the bios, but it beeps, look up the beep code and see what it means. Fix
> that problem before you get any further.
>
> If it doesn't get to the bios and doesn't beep, either you've got a power
> problem, something that's not set right, a card that's not seated, something
> that's shorted, or bad hardware. You can try resetting the bios using the
> jumper on the motherboard. Look in the manual to see how to do that. If that
> doesn't work, take the whole thing apart, inspect every piece for burn marks
> or other damage. Make sure the standoffs for the motherboard are in the
> right place. Put it together using the minimum hardware required
> (motherboard, processor, memory, power) and see if you get a beep code error
> about the video. (You could also try this step outside the case, just to
> verify that there's nothing shorting in the case. Then put the motherboard
> in the case and try again.) If you do get the video error beep, plug in the
> video card, and see what happens. One at a time, keep adding components back
> in and see if any give you an error or it refuses to boot. And I really mean
> ONE. One cable, one component, one single thing at a time. I've seen
> computers refuse to boot because of a bad IDE cable, whether there was a
> drive attached to it or not. If you take it one step at a time, you'll know
> what's bad. At this point, you don't care about Windows, and if the hard
> drive isn't attached, that obviously isn't even a factor. You're just trying
> to verify hardware.
>
> If it gets through the bios and starts loading Windows, but stops with an
> error code, look up the error code and fix that problem before going
> further. Depending on what you have on that computer, it might be faster
> and easier to simply format the hard drive and start over. Or, you can do a
> repair install and see if that fixes it. There are other options, depending
> on what your goal is and what the error is. When you get that far you might
> want to post back.
>
>
> "Snyper007" <jason_hightman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:f666335f.0410310704.59c4d14b@posting.google.com...
> > ok bear with me on this one b/c i am totally stumped...
> >
> > My friend calls me and says his comp is not working ( Windows XP P4
> > 2.0 mhz, pci vid card 1Gig ram... ) thinks its his processor, wants to
> > try mine out. When he boots up his computer get to the windows xp
> > screen, just after boot.. then before it shows u the welcome screen it
> > shows the BSoD and resets and begins to boo talloveragain.
> >
> > 1. we try his processor in computer.. runs my machine fine... no
> > problems.
> > 2. we try my processor in his computer... his doesen't work
> > 3. we assumed at this point it was his motherboard.. we bought a new
> > one and installed... now we cant even get his computer to engage the
> > monitor
> > 4. we replacede power supplys, processors, and memory sticks at this
> > point to try and weed any of that out. no luck.
> >
> > heres where it gets weird.. we decide to try his components 1 by 1 in
> > my machine ( Winodws XP Pro 2.8 mhz P4 1 gig ram)
> >
> > 1 we put his video card into my machine... and bam i get the reset on
> > MY machine just like his was doing.. I say ok ... must be the video
> > card... put my card back in .. SAME thing !
> >
> > 2. maybe we got the processors mixed up? swapped them out .. same
> > thing only insted of reset.. i get the BSoD this time.. so we swap the
> > processors back. And wtih a reboot with all of my original equip it is
> > now doing the exact same thing his computer was doing.
> >
> > Dinner..
> >
> > OK so we decide to try his hard drive with my comp... it boots fine
> > !!!!!! WTF?WTF?WTF?WTF?WTF?WTF?WTF?WTF?WTF?WTF? ( pulling hair out )
> >
> > put my Hard Drive back in ... same error...
> >
> > put his Hard Drive back in ... boots fine..
> >
> > ok .. his HD is good.. put it into his machine and it resets
> > again!!!!!
> >
> > WTF?WTF?WTF?WTF?WTF?WTF?WTF?WTF?WTF?WTF?WTF?
> >
> > please help as i ma totally lost... seem like something is burning up
> > ? we worked on it for well over 12 hours, got no sleep , my girlfriend
> > dumped me and im living on the streets now.... please help
>
>
>
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