Re: Toshiba Portege 7200 appears incompatible with XP
From: choro-nik (choro-nik_at_tvcom.net)
Date: 10/12/04
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Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 10:17:05 GMT
Question is that you had a machine with no OS which makes you responsible
for installing the OS of your choice on that machine. Since you did not have
the manufacturer supplied system disk it is up to you to buy a legit system
disk to put the OS on the machine. This could be the full rather than the
upgrade version of Windows. If you had say a legit copy of Win 98 or ME, you
could have bought an upgrade version of Win XP and installed Win XP on your
machine. It would have asked you to insert your qualifying system CD
temporarily in the process.
OEM disks are not for computers with no OS system but rather for machines
manufactured/put together by manufacturers and freaks like me who like to
build their own computers. However, I doubt that MegaBucks is after the
likes of you. He can of course impose his conditions on how you can use his
products even though some of us do not consider this ethical. After all if I
buy a product I should be able to use it as I see fit providing of course
that I do not sell it to others or use it in a network setup for a company.
MegaBucks are really after people who mass-distribute their OS and other
software commercially and I don't blame them one bit in this regard. The
question of whether they are charging a fair price for their products, is a
moot point. If a retired person for whom computing is a hobby wants to play
around with Win XX or Office he surely should not be expected to pay the
same price as say a multinational pays to put the same software on one of
their computers. Most people can get by buying the Academic Version which
sells at a more reasonable price.
How about making the Academic Version available to ALL who buy the software
purely for private use? A lot of pensioners on limited incomes are far more
likely to buy the legit product if they could legitimately buy and use the
Academic Version. To many pensioners computing has become a hobby. Surely
they should not be expected to pay MORE for their software than a
multinational who dish out far less than the full retail price of MS
products.
How about it Mr Bill Gates?
-- choro-nik ******** "WightOwl" <WightOwl@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message news:3D0F1889-3C85-4EF4-A9B9-FC4C4F063EE0@microsoft.com... > To clarify this matter: Although originally supplied with Windows 2000 the > laptop arrived second hand without restore CDs or OEM sticker. It was > effectively a clean machine. An upgrade disk would not have worked as the > HD > was clean and upgrades need the presence of an operating system in some > form. > I of course accept the principle that OEM CDs are for machines without > operating systems. > > > > "BAR" wrote: > >> You should not attempt using an OEM version of Windows for an upgrade >> installtion. OEM editions are to be supplied with new computers or >> significant components [Mobo, CPU, HDD] and to be installed on those >> items >> and not other hardware. To tell the world of this is to advise that you >> have >> or are attempting to defraud Microsoft. >> >> You should have purchased an XP Pro Upgrade edition and attempted to >> Upgrade >> the W2K installtion. Bootup to W2K, insert the XP Upgrade CD and all >> will >> run smoothly. >> >> Prior to the upgrade, ensure that you run the compatibility checks and >> identify what if any, drivers will need to be available. Go to Toshiba's >> web >> site and download [and extract any ZIP files] into a new folder. Then if >> requested during the upgrade process you can point XP to the new folder >> for >> any unique drivers files it requires. >> >> The compatibility checks will also identify the need for software >> upgrades >> as well. >> >> Doing this will ensure that you don't render your PC unusable. >> >> Another warning: >> Prior to running an Upgrade make sure you copy all your personal data >> across >> to CD or other media [just to be safe]. >> >> >> >> "WightOwl" wrote: >> >> > The Toshiba Portege 7200 (600MHz PIII + 320MB) works with Windows 2000 >> > though >> > installation is not made easy because it has no internal CD or Floppy >> > drives. >> > >> > I attempted to install Windows XP OEM SP2 using an original PCMCIA >> > Toshiba >> > external CD drive. The CD booted properly and passed the primary >> > installation >> > stage. However, before the partitioning screen arrived the following >> > error >> > message appeared: >> > "A problem has been detected and Windows has been shut down to prevent >> > damage to your computer. Tech Info: >> > *** STOP 0x0000007B (0xF88B6524,0xC0000034,0x00000000,0,00000000" >> > >> > This apparently indicates a device driver incompatibility within XP >> > which >> > may be resolved by manually installing a compatible driver using F6 >> > during >> > the initial install stage. Unfortunately I have no idea where to get >> > such a >> > driver for this purpose. I am also surprised XP fails where Windows >> > 2000 >> > succeeded. >> > >> > As a disk check I tried installing the XP onto the 2.5" HD while >> > plugged >> > into a tower. This succeeded but when the 2.5" drive was placed back in >> > the >> > Portege it failed during loading with the same message as above. This >> > failure >> > continued to occur after all peripherals were removed including the >> > PCMCIA CD >> > ROM drive. >> > >> > Does anyone have any suggestions other than reverting to 2000? >> > >> > Thanks for reading. >> > -- >> > Richard Howe
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