Re: ***** sp2 bREAKS eVERYTHING!!!!! *****

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From: gls858 (gls858_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 09/02/04 

Date: Thu, 02 Sep 2004 16:44:40 -0500

*** Kistler wrote:

> Michael Solomon (MS-MVP Windows Shell/User) wrote:
>
>>First, SP2 was thoroughly tested across a very wide test bed, Given
>>all the different hardware configurations plus all those with
>>self-built systems combined with those who never check for updated
>>drivers and updates for applications or assume all of that comes
>>through Windows Update, it's amazing the wide level of compatibility
>>they are able to reach with any such update not to mention new
>>versions of the operating system.
>>I have no doubts about Linux reliability, it is renown for such
>>stability.
>>That said, it's not for the faint of heart, it's not for the novice,
>>in fact, it really isn't for most users at this time. The point is,
>>sending people off to something like this without telling them the
>>truth about what the site is and what such download is, is
>>irresponsible.
>>As to what the post has to do with Linux, the OP posted a link
>>implying it was a fix for problems others were having with the
>>service pack. It was in fact a link to a Linux download and I
>>thought people should know precisely what it is. No matter how good
>>Linux may be, it is irresponsible to send people under such false
>>pretenses off to a site where they might download and execute
>>something that runs the risk of hosing their setup and making things
>>much worse for them than is already the case.
>>It has nothing to do with how good Linux is or even a comparative of
>>Linux versus Windows and everything to do with sending people off to
>>unwittingly do something that might make matters worse for them.
>
>
> Again, the site is perfectly clear as to what it is. If you construe from
> the incoherent post of the OP that his problem is with Windows itself
> suggesting a new OS is perfectly reasonable. It is entirely possible
> that a Linux install would go much better than his experience with
> SP2. I can't see the problem. It's just that I don't see Windows as
> the only solution to all problems. Besides, I don't know from the OP's
> post what his question is, and this may actually be the right answer
> for him.
>
> If the OP is clueless enough to unwittingly blow his Windows install away,
> he will have learned a valuable lesson. Maybe this would be important
> to him in the long run. My opinion is that you can't protect the clueless
> if they insist on remaining clueless. But my guess is that the OP has
> figured
> out what is going on, and is not as dumb as you assume him to be.
>
>
>
>>
>>"Robert E. Wijnberg" <rob@bekijk.het.maar> wrote in message
>>news:ch7u67$icp$1@taurus.wijnberg.xs4all.nl...
>>
>>>Michael Solomon (MS-MVP Windows Shell/User) wrote:
>>>
>>>>At the very least, post what it is. Are Linux fans so hard up for
>>>>new adherents that they can't at least abide by truth in
>>>>advertising. This is not a patch, it fixes nothing, it is a completely
>>>>separate
>>>>operating system and if you install without realizing this, you
>>>>might wipe out your current setup.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Said this, I wonder why they called this a *service pack*.
>>>MS is using the user community as their free test lab.
>>>What has this post to do with Linux?
>>>I'm using both and I've never seen these kind of problems on Linux
>>>systems.
>
>
> Fedora Core 2- NVidia drivers, Lucent Winmodem drivers, etc.
>
> This kind of thing happens so often in Linux that we don't even notice it
> any more.
> Linux and its applications change so quickly that we see the SP2 problem
> every
> time we update. Or at least I do. Maybe there is some advantage in this.
> However,
> Linux developers are continually using their users as a "test lab." It's the
> only
> way that the OS can advance.
>
> The truth of the matter is that as time goes on, OS's grow and change. This
> can happen
> in big lumps, like SP2, with lots of pain, or in small lumps, like Linux,
> being pecked to death
> by ducks. The clueless are ill equiped for either scenario, and will have
> massive difficulty
> coping with either if they insist on remaining clueless..
>
> *** Kistler
>
>
>
>
Actually the OP didn't ask a question at all.
original post follows:

dON'T INSTALL SP2! i HAVEAND NOW MY COMPUTER CAN'T TALK
TO TOHER PC'SANYMORE HERE AT HOME, AND IT COMPLAINS ABOUT
FIREWALL ANF ANTIVIRUS. cANT ACCESS VARUOIS WEBPAGES AND
EVEN THE WAY MY COMPUTER LOOKS WHEN IT IS STARTING UP IS
DIFFERENT!!! yOU WOULD BE WELL WARRNED TO STAY AWAY!!!

It amazes me that a post like this can generate a thread this long :-)
(as I add to it)

gls858

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