Re: XP SP2 doesn't work on AOpen AX4SG Max m/b

From: Cari \(MS MVP\) (Newsgroups1_at_coribright.com)
Date: 08/21/04


Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 11:48:19 -0700

It's something to do with the CPU (Prescott and EE editions) and the
i865/i875 chipsets. Disabling the L1/L2 cache in the BIOS will correct the
problem but performance then is terrible.

Disabling the L1/L2 will at least allow the PC to startup and SP2 can be
removed until the problem is fixed.

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Cari (MS-MVP Windows Client - Printing, Imaging & Hardware)
www.coribright.com
"Gulliver" <jswift909@clara.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:1092724254.25876.0@eunomia.uk.clara.net...
> Just did another test: Installed XP (no SP) on my Shuttle (FV25) and then
> went direct to XP SP2 - all works perfectly.
>
> Therefore, the problem seems to be with AOpen's AX4SG Max motherboard,
> and/or BIOS and XP SP2.
>
>
> "Gulliver" <jswift909@clara.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:1092675073.97215.0@iris.uk.clara.net...
>> http://club.aopen.com.tw/forum/viewmessage.asp?forumID=17&MessageID=64193
>>
>> Someone else is having the same problem with an EA65, see:
>> http://club.aopen.com.tw/forum/viewmessage.asp?forumID=49&MessageID=64192
>>
>> Who's to blame? Microsoft or AOpen?
>>
>>
>> << Posted to Motherboards on 8/16/2004 7:54:49 PM by Jonathan Swift >>
>> I think I've exhausted all the testing I can do, and with the prospect
> that
>> AOpen won't be able to find the problem either, I'll have to return this
>> board for a refund (to DABS.COM). I purchased it in February and it cost
>> quite a bit, so I'll try install XP SP2 on a Shuttle I have around, to
>> verify my media are all perfect, then I'll have to get an Abit, or
>> Supermicro, or something instead. I see there is also a Max II version,
> but
>> obviously I wouldn't want to be in the same boat all over again.
>>
>> If Tech Support can just get back to me and tell me if it's all my fault,
> or
>> Microsoft's, or whether it's a problem with this motherboard. I know XP
> SP2
>> hasn't been out even a week yet - which was why I was starting to test it
> !!
>>
>>
>> << Posted to Motherboards on 8/16/2004 3:41:16 PM by Jonathan Swift >>
>> Also disconnected CD-ROM drives (NEC 107D and SONY CRX300), disable LAN
>> during one re-build, and did the "disable mup" trick - nothing worked.
> When
>> I disabled mup.sys the next instance to load was NDIS - disabled that and
>> got a crash - NDIS is a required component (as far as I know). But, does
>> this point to a problem with the Broadcom gigabit firmware? I see there 
>> is
> a
>> new firmware/diag download for this.
>>
>>
>> << Posted to Motherboards on 8/16/2004 2:56:08 PM by Jonathan Swift >>
>> I forgot to mention, I also swapped the DIMMS, tried with just one DIMM,
> ran
>> Microsoft's memory testing software (link posted elsewhere on this 
>> forum).
>> As I said, I read posts across the net, and from this forum, before I
>> considered posting. I like to solve problems on my own, by searching
>> extensively first, but some problems are so embedded in the BIOS, or
>> software, that all you can do, once you've exhausted all your own 
>> testing,
>> is to refer it to Technical Support. You can waste days testing something
>> only to find out it's a BIOS/mb issue, but equally it may well be a major
>> problem with XP SP2!
>>
>>
>> << Posted to Motherboards on 8/16/2004 2:16:40 PM by Jonathan Swift >>
>> As I already said, I installed XP from scratch (original media), then
>> applied SP1a, then applied SP2 - both with and without 3rd-party drivers.
> I
>> also did a build from XP, then went directly to SP2 - same problem every
>> time. XP SP1a and all patches work just fine, and previously worked for
> six
>> months. I've fiddled with every setting in the BIOS that could be
> connected.
>> I also read this article, and many more (search the Internet for hours
>> reading material) before posting. I hadn't loaded any applications at
> all -
>> these were fresh installs every time.
>>
>>
>> << Posted to Motherboards on 8/16/2004 9:00:51 AM by Pedro Lezama >>
>> Isn't the AX4SG Max. Is the WinXP´s SP2.
>>
>> Here are the link.
>>
>> http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=884130&product=windowsxpsp2
>>
>>
>> << Posted to Motherboards on 8/16/2004 4:49:05 AM by Jonathan Swift >>
>> Firstly, I love Aopen kit - it's well made, has good documentation, and
> good
>> support.
>>
>> Now the problem. I have an AX4SG Max motherboard with 1GB (2x512) Corsair
>> memory and a P4 2.8 1MB (Extreme Edition) cpu. I had a 250MB SATA Maxtor
>> drive, and I'm using the onboard LAN and VGA - no other components. I
>> installed WinXP SP2 and the machine wouldn't boot - hung at mup.sys (or
>> whatever's next). I then replace the drive with a 40GB Seagate and
>> re-installed XP and SP1 from scratch - no 3rd-party drivers added, then
>> upgraded to SP2 - again, hung when booting. Re-installed again, SP1, 
>> added
>> 3rd-party drivers (latest), installed SP2, hung again. So I've gone back
> to
>> using SP1a and all the patches - works like a dream. I have the latest
>> (1.09) bios. My unit number is: 918AT1040133900105JE39 but have no idea 
>> if
>> this is a problem with this motherboard not working with SP2. Any helpful
>> suggestions gratefully appreciated. I'm currently using the 40GB drive as
>> the boot device, and all the data is, thankfully, on the 250GB Maxtor.
> NOTE.
>> I thought I'd lost 10 years and 200GB of data as when I installed XP it
>> didn't see any data on the drive - until I installed SP1 which supports
>> really big drives ! I've got 20 years experience in all this sort of
> thing,
>> I work as a Server Development Specialist - specialising in hardware
> testing
>> and automated OS and OS-related software installation, so I tried a lot 
>> of
>> the obvious - re-setting BIOS defaults, turning off hyperthreading, etc.
>>
>>
>
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