Re: ATI All-In-Wonder and new hardware...

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From: Nathan McNulty (nospam_at_msn.com)
Date: 08/08/04 

Date: Sun, 08 Aug 2004 15:23:09 -0700

ASUS generally makes the best motherboards on the market, though I do
not like SiS chipsets. I currently use a P4P800 which is the Intel
Chipset version of your board. I would recommend using this program to
disable Sideband Addressing if you try everything V Green has suggested:
http://www.guru3d.com/rivatuner/

You can try lowering settings in there and see if anything helps. 

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Nathan McNulty
V Green wrote:
> "Zack" <saberspark77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:219701c47d76$38076c40$a301280a@phx.gbl...
> 
>>AGP has been reduced from 4x to 2x, only in SMARTGART
>>because I couldn't locate the setting in the BIOS.  I
>>found video preference and AGP Aperture Size, but I'm not
>>sure that there is a setting for AGP speed.  In any case,
>>all I notice by changing the setting in SMARTGART is an
>>evident decrease in performance.  Fastwrite was already
>>turned off, and indeed cannot be turned on.
>>
>>The one thing that I did notice when I was tooling around
>>in the BIOS was a feature that hadn't stuck out until
>>now..."Advanced HyperStreaming Engine," which was enabled
>>by default.  According to Asus' website, the purpose of
>>this feature is to:
>>
>>SiS HyperStremingT Technology, it makes streams of chipset
>>data flow all over the paths, Efficiently, Concurrently,
>>Smoothly and Intelligently. Further more, SiS655TX
>>Advanced HyperStreamingT Engine enhances the transfer rate
>>on the path from host block to memory controller block to
>>achieve the target that can improve whole system
>>performance.
> 
> 
> So, you're using a non-Intel chipset motherboard (SiS).
> 
> My sympathies  ;-)  SiS is "low end" for motherboard chipsets.
> 
> Backup all your data and get it off this machine.  The stuff that follows
> can render it unbootable.  Try them one at a time, looking for improvements
> after each.
> 
> Even tho' you already said you did it, go to their website and use
> the chipset ID tool, then download the newest drivers for AGP.
> And turn OFF that ASUS "feature" (try this first).
> 
> Have you done any of that voodoo crap (PCI latency fixes, etc.)
> from the DriverHeaven, R3D forums?  If so, remove it and go back to
> defaults.  Also go into BIOS and load "most compatible" or "fail-safe"
> defaults and try again.
> 
> Get the "hyperthreaded" fix from ATI and install it anyway.
> 
> Turn OFF P4 hyperthreading in the BIOS.  If this fixes it, scrap
> the MB-you paid good money for a HT CPU, and the MB isn't supporting
> it properly.
> 
> If the other stuff doesn't do it, a new (non SiS) MB is in order unless you
> have time and $$$ to play musical video cards.
> 
> I know that seems drastic, but how much time have you spent
> on this already?
> 
> I'm no lover of Intel, but I have totally given up on MB's that
> run their processors with third-party chipsets - I just don't have
> the time to screw with the incompatibilities and other
> weirdness...
> 
> 
> 
>>Perhaps this, combined with my pre-HyperThreading video
>>card, has something to do with my difficulties?
>>
>>And also, is there anything else that you recommend to fix
>>my problem, rather than taking away from the performance
>>of my existing video card?  Or do you think that the
>>purchase of a new card is in order?
>>
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>Reduce AGP from 8X or 4X to 2X
>>>using your BIOS and/or SMARTGART (in
>>>the Display>>Advanced dialogs).  You may also
>>>want to turn Fast Writes off (also in SMARTGART).
>>>
>>>Sound like you're fighting a bum motherboard
>>>implementation of AGP sideband addressing.
>>>
>>>"Zack" <saberspark77@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>news:24a501c47d6b$b902fd10$a401280a@phx.gbl...
>>>
>>>>Thanks for your help...
>>>>
>>>>I had already updated my ATI drivers, as well as
>>>>downloaded and installed all windowsupdate's available
>>>>updates.  The only thing I hadn't done was upgrade to
>>>>DX9.0c, which I did this morning.  Unfortunately, my
>>>>problem is still occurring.
>>>>
>>>>Anyone else?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>>Recently I installed an Asus P4S800D-E Deluxe with a P4
>>>>>3.0E (hyper-threaded).  Since that time, my ATI All-In-
>>>>>Wonder 7500 video card has been malfunctioning.  Three
>>
>>or
>>
>>>>>more times per Windows session, the screen goes black,
>>>>>then comes back garbled, then goes black again, and
>>>>>finally comes back to normal.  It then displays a
>>
>>message
>>
>>>>>stating that "VPU Recover has reset your graphics
>>>>>accelerator as it was no longer responding to graphics
>>>>>driver commands."  After three to five of these
>>>>
>>>>instances,
>>>>
>>>>>the garbled screen will come back twice in a row, then
>>>>>when it returns to normal, I get the above error, along
>>>>>with one telling me that it was unable to reset
>>
>>hardware
>>
>>>>>rendering, and has switched to software rendering mode,
>>>>>and that it will only change back after the computer is
>>>>>restarted.
>>>>>
>>>>>The error occurs when a window is scrolled.  It could
>>
>>be
>>
>>>>>any window at all, it doesn't seem to be picky.  In the
>>>>>course of writing this message, the act of advancing
>>
>>the
>>
>>>>>text to the next line caused the error.  From time to
>>>>>time, the error will actually lock the entire computer
>>>>
>>>>up,
>>>>
>>>>>and either freeze completely or dump me into a stop
>>>>>error.  I don't always get an message from Windows
>>
>>when I
>>
>>>>>restart, but when I do, it always has something to do
>>>>
>>>>with
>>>>
>>>>>a video driver.  I remember once that the drawing
>>
>>engine
>>
>>>>>stopped responding, and once that it got stuck in an
>>>>>infinite loop.
>>>>>
>>>>>I've contacted ATI by email twice about the matter, but
>>>>>have yet to receive a response.  I have no way of
>>
>>calling
>>
>>>>>them, as the only number they provide is Canadian.  In
>>
>>my
>>
>>>>>searches of the ATI website, I noticed that there had
>>>>
>>>>been
>>>>
>>>>>an issue with the TV tuner on their cards and hyper-
>>>>>threaded processors, but this seemed only to cause
>>>>
>>>>trouble
>>>>
>>>>>when the TV tuner was being used.
>>>>>
>>>>>I've updated all the drivers for my video card and
>>>>>motherboard, have used Windows Update to download all
>>
>>of
>>
>>>>>Microsoft's patches, and have searched both sites for
>>>>>issues similar to mine, but to no avail.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am desperate for a solution to my problems!
>>>>>.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>.
>>>
> 
> 
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