Re: Wanted dual boot - I think?
From: Teilhard Knight (teilhk_at_privacy.net)
Date: 07/26/04
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Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 02:49:47 -0500
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> >> "rogert" <rogert@cinci.rr.com> wrote in message
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> >>> Before I had just a WD120 gig HD that was/is a 5400 rpm drive. I added
a
> >> new
> >>> WD160 gig HD at 7200 rpm. I was/am running XP Home and wanted to keep
> > data
> >>> and OS seperate on the old and new HD, copy, at my leisure all the
data
> I
> >>> wanted to keep from the old to the new HD -THEN- "wipe" the old and
use
> > it
> >>> simply as an archive storage drive. Western Digital support directed
me
> > to
> >>> use master/slave configuration. Fine but that just combined the 2
drive,
> >>> essentially into 1 280 gig drive w/1 XP os. I had files I wanted stuff
> >> from
> >>> but didn't want to inherit all the settings, adware, bulls%^t etc. I
> >> wanted
> >>> to use some settings on some programs and not some on others. Now it's
> >> kinda
> >>> all in the same "mess"
> >>> My question is; is it too late to change configurations, whatever to
go
> >> to
> >>> the type of setup I wanted in the first place?
> >>> In other words go to the configuration that will allow me to boot
from
> >>> either drive I want to, copy selective data back and forth then in the
> > end
> >>> keep the second HD as just an archive/storage drive? Still seperate
from
> >> the
> >>> new 160 gig primary drive?
> >>> Any help here would be greatly appreciated.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> If I understand you correctly then you will have two disks, each
> >> with its own operating system, and you would like to be able to
> >> boot from each and at all times be able to access the other.
> >>
> >> This is easily achieved with some third-party boot loaders.
> >> I would use XOSL: It's got a very nice user interface, and it's
> >> free.
> >>
> >> Post again if you require more details.
> >
> > If I read his post correctly, that isn't what he wants, and what you
> suggest
> > cannot work with what he wants. He wants to be able to switch back and
> forth
> > making each drive the master drive (as opposed to master to
> secondary/slave
> > as shown in the BIOS). In this case, your suggestion won't work, as the
> > jumpers need to be switched for separate hard drive to load up. Yes, you
> can
> > make both drive a bootable drive (i.e. primary partiton, so to speak,
with
> > their own boot loaders), but the physical setup inside the tower needs
to
> be
> > changed from master to slave, adn vice-versa for that to work in his
case,
> > meaning, changed the jumpers. I am fairly sure, that one can make a
jumper
> > switch for their box on the outside that would do such a thing.
> > ===============
> > XOSL has the capability of switching drives on the fly, without
modifying
> > the master/slave jumpers. When the OP selects disk 1 as his boot drive
> then
> > the machine will boot off disk 1, and it will appear as drive C:. Disk 2
> > will appear as drive D:. When he selects disk 2 as his boot drive then
the
> > machine will boot off disk 2, and it will appear as drive C:. Disk 1
will
> > now appear as drive D:.
>
> But that will not work if the BIOS sees those drives as
> Primary(master)/Secondary(slave), and the BIOS needs to set one as the
> primary device from the IDE/SATA controller. The BIOS will not recognize
two
> primary drives to load, unless there is a MOBO that does that. I tried
doing
> that with my previous PC, and tried setting up both a boot devices. Yes, I
> made them both boot devices, but the the BIOS when it posted would only
take
> one as the boot device. Otherwise, I would get an error that there was no
OS
> to load because i didn't have the jumpers set properly. Now, whether there
> is a IDE/SATA controller card for a PCI slot that will do this, I don't
> know, but there are such controller cards.
>
> Any boot loader will do what you say, but not as Master/Slave setting in
the
> BIOS connected to the controllers on the MOBO itself, AFAIK.
>
> > Whether this is exactly what the OP wants, I do not know. His post was
not
> > very clear in this regard.
>
> I agree, he was not clear at all.
> ========================
> I tested my proposed configuration with the two disks connected as primary
> master/primary slave. XOSL does not care whether a given disk is a master
or
> a slave. If you include a given partition in its menu then it will boot
from
> it. XOSL even allows you to boot into a logical drive!
This is right. I have in one computer as many as 6 OSs in two disks, one
primary master and the other secondary master. In another machine I have 5
OSs, in two disks, both masters, but one in the ordinary primary channel and
the other in the primary RAID channel. Xosl, can boot almost anything
whenever the OS supports booting from the partitions allocated. For example,
it cannot boot Win XP from a logical partition, but it boots all right Linux
from such a partition.
What I think Rogert wants is simply to have his old HD as storage device.
For that he must first create a partition for the whole HD and then format
it with the same file system (or lower) where the OS resides. In that way it
will appear in Windows as drive "D" or something. In this way, he simply
drags and drops files from one disk to the other. No need to dual boot.
Teilhard.
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