Re: Any better Hard disk imaging software than Norton Ghost2003??

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From: dmac (dmacleo_at_tds1.net)
Date: 06/01/04


Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 13:01:38 -0400

a lot of problems had arisen from sata drives being used w/o command line
switch, and symantec themselves have said (in dec 2003) they will not offer
a way to directly use gui w/o a command line switch. I have found -noide to
work best in the command line. I asked symantec why they did not plan on
fixing this since sata is becoming so popular and got no response.

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"Art" <notaname@notanisp> wrote in message
news:eLVxnc%23REHA.2704@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Hi Joe:
>
> I find your comments very puzzling. As I mentioned in my previous posting,
> over the past three years or so that I've used Ghost to clone hard drives,
> I've cloned these drives on a multitude of different systems.
Interestingly
> enough, the most common motherboard in these systems was an ASUS. I've
> probably cloned drives in systems with a variety of ASUS motherboards at
> least a couple of hundred times. And I can't remember the last time I had
a
> problem doing so. I've discussed this with a number of persons who also
have
> been using Ghost over the years and their experiences parallel mine.
>
> I don't dispute the fact that you have experienced problems using the
Ghost
> program with ASUS motherboards. If you've experienced that problem, then
> you've experienced that problem. I can only relate my positive experiences
> with the Ghost program along with the similarly positive experiences of
> others using the program - computer users who I know to be competent
users.
>
> Art
>
>
> "Joe M" <joematminemandotcom> wrote in message
> news:er6Zew5REHA.1276@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> > Hi Art,
> >          When ghost works, it really works well. But when it fails,
you'll
> > really need another piece of cloning software.
> > I have use Ghost 2003 to clone many types of Computer systems with
> different
> > motherboards (about 100 different motherboards).
> > I've have discovered it to normally fail on the ones with an ASUS
> > motherboard.  The Ghost boot disk will boot to the point of where it
will
> > launch GHOST.EXE, but it is at this point that it stopped launching the
> GUI
> > .
> > What is the problem, and why often on certain Asus motherboard( the
> biggest
> > motherboard maker in the world)??
> > Maybe you have use ghost on the same make of computer for all these
years.
> > Yeah I know when it works it works very well.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> >
> >
> > "Art" <notaname@notanisp> wrote in message
> > news:uDiX9v4REHA.1048@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > "Joe M" <joematminemandotcom> wrote in message
> > > news:u2tkCi3REHA.1160@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > Does anyone knows of any other better Operating System
cloning/imaging
> > > > software than Symantec Norton Ghost2003? In the past there was
> > Imagequest,
> > > > but now they're bought by Symantec too.
> > > > I need another imaging software because on some computers ghost
> doesn't
> > > seem
> > > > to work because of the hardware components. Maybe having another
> imaging
> > > > software will solve the problem.
> > >
> > > Hi:
> > > I am constantly puzzled by the continuous negative comments (and
> frequent
> > > misinformation!) I come across on the various newsgroups that
deprecate
> > > Symantec's Norton Ghost program. My experience with that program has
> been,
> > > and continues to be, completely counter to the negative views
expressed
> by
> > > so many posters. I have often remarked that I wish every software
> program
> > I
> > > use was as simple, straightforward, and effective as the Norton Ghost
> > > program. Let me state at the outset that I use Ghost for one and only
> one
> > > purpose - to clone the contents of one hard drive to another. By
making
> a
> > > bit-for-bit copy (not technically precise perhaps, but correct for all
> > > practical purposes) of one's working hard drive, you have, what seems
to
> > me,
> > > the ultimate backup system. I have used various versions of Ghost over
> the
> > > years, including the present 2003 version. During that time I estimate
> > I've
> > > cloned various hard drives more than a thousand times. And done so
with
> > nary
> > > a hiccup. Ghost's ease of use together with reasonable speed make it a
> joy
> > > to use.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'm aware that many experienced and competent users who contribute to
> this
> > > newsgroup prefer different software cloning programs, e.g., Acronis
True
> > > Image, BING, and Casper XP among them, as well as cloning utilities
> > provided
> > > by the hard drive manufacturers. No doubt these programs work equally
as
> > > well as Ghost, however, since my experience has been primarily with
the
> > > Ghost program, I will confine my remarks to that program.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > As I've previously indicated, I use Ghost exclusively to clone one
hard
> > > drive to another. I rarely clone individual partitions, although
there's
> > no
> > > reason why you cannot do so. I'm not a particular fan of creating hard
> > drive
> > > partitions since I frequently find them awkward to use; they seem to
> > create
> > > more problems than they solve; and they give the user a false sense of
> > > security. In nearly all cases I set up my computers with a single
> > partition
> > > per hard drive. My computers are usually configured with two removable
> > hard
> > > drives in their mobile racks. I have found this arrangement just about
> the
> > > best backup system for the average home user and even small business
> > owner.
> > > There are other advantages in having two removable hard drives on
one's
> > > computer but the most significant one is providing a near fail-safe
> backup
> > > system. The speed, flexibility and peace of mind you get with this
> > > arrangement far outweighs the relatively small additional cost of
> > equipping
> > > one's desktop computer with this hardware configuration. Note that the
> > > removable hard drive mobile racks I am referring to are designed to be
> > > installed in desktop computers and not laptop or notebook computers.
The
> > > size, weight, and design considerations of laptops/notebooks do not
> allow
> > > for this hardware configuration.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I use the Ghost bootable floppy, rather than Ghost's Window's
interface
> > when
> > > I clone the drives. I find the floppy easier and more straightforward
to
> > > use, and the portability aspect of the floppy is an important
> > consideration
> > > for me. The floppy is created through the Ghost Utilities program. It
is
> > > simple to use and effective in its operation.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Cloning one's hard drive will not solve any problems the user may be
> > > experiencing with that drive. I mention this because I sometimes come
> > across
> > > users who have run into problems with the Ghost cloning process when I
> > later
> > > learn that the source disk was defective in one way or another. If you
> > clone
> > > garbage, garbage is what you'll get. Before cloning a hard drive you
> must
> > > ensure that the drive is free of physical/system defects and
virus-free.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If you do install the Ghost 2003 program on your computer, check the
> > > version. The latest version as of this date is 2003.793. If necessary,
> use
> > > Ghost's built-in LiveUpdate feature to update to the latest version.
> BTW,
> > > there had been a problem with Ghost cloning to an USB 2.0 external
hard
> > > drive, however, Symantec has released two revised files that overcome
> this
> > > problem. You can download and install the two revised files from:
> > >
> > >
> >
>
http://service1.symantec.com/support/ghost.nsf/docid/2003011609192825?Open&s
> > rc=w.
> > > (I'm not absolutely certain these two revised files are actually
needed
> if
> > > you have the latest 2003.793 version.)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Art
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>


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