Re: Enter Key Problem Still A Mystery

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From: Jupiter Jones [MVP] (jones_jupiter_at_hotnomail.com)
Date: 03/08/04


Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2004 12:38:15 -0700


"thunder", well if that is what you call it.
Whatever you think, however it should be pointed out when someone
suggests not patching without giving adequate explanation of why.
You should know the average user often can not understand the details
of exactly what a patch does.
That is one of the reasons for having some labeled "Critical Updates",
then the user has a better idea.
By the way, a Critical Update is not always a security update.
Maybe Microsoft can change it, maybe Microsoft should, but that is
beyond the scope of this discussion.

"A good firewall and an up-to-date antivirus are the best approach for
private users and installing all those patches and such is IMHO
looking for trouble."
This statement on that post is a problem because it may let users
believe patches are not necessary.
Users may have vulnerable computers because of your suggestion as well
as severely limited a major component of the layered protection of the
computer.
You should explain in detail what should and what should not be
installed and under what circumstances it applies.
Your half information on that post is potentially dangerous.

Your last sentence is really just a shot at suggesting I should
research more a specific issue, maybe I should and maybe I shouldn't,
but that is not for you to determine or even suggest.

As long as I see bad advice especially when it potentially affects the
security of the computer, I will say what I feel.

This is clearly off topic for this particular thread so respond only
if you need the last word and like to read your own posts.

-- 
Jupiter Jones  [MVP]
http://www3.telus.net/dandemar/
"John Doue" <notwobe@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> Well Jupiter, what a thunder!
>
> Let me put it another way: I suggest using common sense, not blindly
> installing what MS says is critical (what is critical for a user
> probably is not for another) and in doubt, for lack of expertise for
> instance, ask expert advice before installing anything and let
others be
> the guinea pig.
>
> This is why it is a different story for IT depts.
>
> You might have recognized the value of having a backup partition (on
a
> different disk preferably) along with a good AV and Firewall.
>
> The points you try to make would carry a much greater weight if MS
> patches and Service Packs were more often trouble-free and if MS
update
> policy and system was more clear and understandable for the average
> user. From what I understand, it looks like MS intends to do
something
> about this.
>
> Your last sentence is totally uncalled for and I suggest you devote
the
> same energy in helping those poor guys without an Enter key instead
of
> demeaning those who go against the grain.
>
> Best regards
>
> -- 
> John Doue


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