Re: "RTFM" is not an answer, and it's RUDE!

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From: Jupiter Jones [MVP] (jones_jupiter_at_hotnomail.com)
Date: 02/12/04


Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 16:58:34 -0700

Joep;
They are insulting to many, maybe not to you but to many.
Fortunately you do not represent everyone.

Your comment "Has nothing to do with that." shows a lot about your
true lack of knowledge.
It has everything to do with it.
Many will feel beat down by such answers.
If people do not come because someone has to boost their own ego at
others expense a large purpose of these groups has been lost.

"RTFM" is an insult because it is translated directly.
This is an answer in ignorance as well as rudeness.
If you fail to see this, you should open your eyes and see outside the
small circle you have encased yourself.

It is nobody else's fault but yours if you waste your time.
So do not complain to us about how you use your time.

Newsgroups are a very diverse group and never will comply with the
narrow type of ideas you seem to think they should.

And bottom posting is considered wrong in others.
However preaching such as you in an obviously incorrect forum is
impolite everywhere.

-- 
Jupiter Jones  [MVP]
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"Joep" <j o e p @ d i y d a t a r e c o v e r y . n l> wrote in
message news:9b582$402bfb06$3eddca68$10734@nf2.news-service.com...
> "Jupiter Jones [MVP]" <jones_jupiter@hotnomail.com> wrote in message
> news:e30blBb8DHA.1596@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Joep;
> > To the contrary, comments like "RTFM" are insulting,
>
> No they aren't.
>
> > rude and a
> > detriment to forums such as this.
> > When people feel insulted, they tend to not come back to be
treated
> > rudely again.
> > It is also a miserable attempt of the user to boost his own ego at
the
> > expense of others.
>
> Has nothing to do with that.
>
> > If a constructive answer can not be given, better to not answer at
> > all.
>
> RTFM can be a very constructive answer. The F manual is a good place
to
> start, many don't even unwrap it so it seems.
>
> > Manuals are not always provided, you may ask for them, but there
is
> > not always a requirement to provide it.
>
> ? then RTFFDG (for dummies guide). If there's specific questions on
> motherboards etc, hoe about visiting the manufacturers website?
>
> > What is easy to you or I may not be so easy to others.
> >
>
> I never made such claims. I actually gave solid advise, get dummy
guides.
> They're cheap and good.
>
> > If you feel someone is wasting your time, look in the mirror.
>
> And then what?
>
> > Since this is a totally voluntary forum, the image you see is the
one
> > who wastes your time.
>
> Offering help on a voluntary basis doesn't mean perse that I am
interested
> in wasting my time or that I am willing to award lazyness. I am more
willing
> to spent some time when the poster indicates what resources have
already
> been accessed etc..
>
> > Courtesy is far better in any forum.
> >
>
> RTFM isn't an insult. Maybe if you translate it directly, but you
shouldn't.
> RTFM is slang. RTFM is an institute. Anyway, top-posting is
considered
> impolite in many usenet groups.
>
> --
> Joep


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