Re: folder ownership rights etc.

On 01 Aug 2011, "RJK" <nosuch@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general:

...(switching to top-posting ),

How about switching to "HTML Off"? Your posts are bloated to four times
their actual size with reams of unreadable unnecessary gunk, as you can
see below.

...disaster recovery 1st essential priority, is a full hard disk
back up of the troubled computer ! ...indeed, after that full
backup for safekeeping, I have been copying selected folders from
the Laptop hd, to a data storage 500gb hard disk in my main PC,
and from there I've been burning them to DVD :-) So, on my 500gb
drive E:\ I have a directory containing a Norton Ghost 14.0
backup of the entire Laptop 60gb hard disk. ...and also a folder
containing the directories that need to be salvaged. And for
speed, I've been using Norton Ghost to extract selected
directories from the Norton backup of the Laptop 60gb hd, and
saving them to that different directory on my main PC's internal
data-stoarage only 500gb drive E:\

...so one pretty much knows what one is doing regarding preserving
data !

The Laptop with problems will not boot up due to hardware problems
other than the hard disk itself. i.e. the hard disk is healthy,
and its' Vista installation is healthy. The Laptop hard disk is
plugged into a docking station and is being accessed as a slave
drive.

The problem with all this is that the Sage Accounts application
sotware that is installed on the Laptop Vista hd, is obvously not
"running," and so one cannot use the "backup" procedure within the
Sage software - out to a pen-drive - so that it can be
transported to the Laptop owners accountant's office Sage software
! So I've gathered up all the Sage directories and burnt them to
DVD, and the accountants office / in conjunction with Sage
software office, will have to do some manual tweaking, to get the
Sage software backup they're after !

regards, Richard


"Mayayana" <mayayana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:j167mk$agq$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Strangely, I don't see the original post. A search
tells me it was made yesterday, but I only see the
Re.

For an easy way to change permissions en masse
on an NTFS drive, see here:

http://www.jsware.net/jsware/nt6fix.php5

It's a civilized version of what Microsoft recommends
doing through 2 tedious command-line programs. The
link John Wunderlich posted is basically the same thing
done through Explorer, if one only needs to change 1 or
2 items. In all cases the method is the same: Running
as Admin. one "takes ownership" of an item, then
edits permissions. (An admin. has power to take ownership,
which confers power to change permissions, but an admin.
does not have power to change permissions per se. Sounds
ridiculous, I know, but that's how it works.)

I don't really understand the task. A plugged-in Vista OS
is imaged to E drive and then part of it is copied to E drive?
It doesn't seem to make sense, but maybe I misunderstood.
If it were me, before going any further, I'd make sure both
disks are mainly FAT32 data partitions, in order to avoid the
permissions problems. There's no reason for XP to be more
than about 5-10 GB, and no reason for Vista/7 to be more
than about 30-40 GB... that is, there's no reason to risk losing
data just because the OS is lost through malware or some
such. The data shouldn't be on C drive in the first place.

--
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"John Wunderlich" <jwunderlich@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:Xns9F33E54E764B6wunderpsdrscray@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| "RJK" <nosuch@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
| news:4e35decf$0$21968$a8266bb1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
|
| > XP Home edition in my main desktop PC.
| > "ALL IN 1 HDD Docking" station is attached by USB lead, and
| > into it is plugged a 60gb 2.5 hard disk from a Toshiba L40
| > 10x Vista Laptop, as a slave drive. ( drive L:\ ) ...need to
| > get off Sage accounts v12 VAT records and some photos.
| >
| > Immediately Ghosted it to internal 500gb drive in my main PC
| > ( E:\ ), for safekeeping :-)
| >
| > Now I will copy selected folders fron the Toshiba drive to my
| > main PC 500gb drive E:\ ?
| >
| > How do I avoid "Permission denied" etc. .....how do I take
| > ownership of the Vista folders, to do with user accounts
| > ...Vista "users" etc ?
| >
| > regards, Richard
| >
| > Many thanks in advance :-)
|
|
| "How to take ownership of a file or a folder in Windows XP"
| < http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308421 >
|
| HTH,
| John


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<DIV><FONT face=Arial>hi,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>...(switching
to&nbsp;top-posting&nbsp;),</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>...disaster recovery 1st essential priority,
is
a full
hard disk back up of the troubled computer !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>...indeed, after that full backup for
safekeeping, I have
been copying selected folders from the Laptop hd,&nbsp;to a data
storage 500gb hard disk in my main PC, and from there I've been
burning them to DVD
:-)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>So, on my 500gb drive E:\&nbsp;&nbsp; I have
a
directory
containing a Norton Ghost 14.0 backup of the entire Laptop 60gb
hard disk.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>...and also a folder containing the
directories
that need
to be salvaged.&nbsp; And for speed, I've been using Norton Ghost
to extract selected directories from the Norton backup of the
Laptop 60gb hd, and saving them to that different directory on my
main PC's internal data-stoarage only 500gb drive E:\</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>...so one pretty much knows what one is doing
regarding
preserving data&nbsp;!</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>The Laptop with problems will not boot up due
to
hardware
problems other than the hard disk itself.&nbsp; i.e. the hard disk
is healthy, and its' Vista installation is healthy.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>The Laptop hard disk is plugged into a
docking
station and
is being accessed as a slave drive.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>The problem with all this is that the Sage
Accounts
application sotware that is installed on the Laptop Vista hd, is
obvously not "running," and so one cannot use the "backup"
procedure within the Sage software - out to a pen-drive -&nbsp; so
that it can be transported to the Laptop owners accountant's
office Sage software !&nbsp; So I've gathered up all the Sage
directories and burnt them to DVD, and the accountants office
/&nbsp; in conjunction with Sage software office, will have to do
some manual tweaking, to get the Sage software backup they're
after !</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial>regards, Richard</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>"Mayayana" &lt;<A
href="mailto:mayayana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>mayayana@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>&g
t; wrote in message <A
href="news:j167mk$agq$1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>news:j167mk$agq$1@dont-email
.me</A>...</DIV>
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style="BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5px;
PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">&nbsp;
Strangely, I don't see the original post. A search<BR>tells me
it was made yesterday, but I only see the<BR>Re.<BR><BR>&nbsp;
For an easy way to change permissions en masse<BR>on an NTFS
drive, see here:<BR><BR><A
href="http://www.jsware.net/jsware/nt6fix.php5";>http://www.jsware
.net/jsware/nt6fix.php5</A><BR><BR>&nbsp; It's a civilized
version of what Microsoft recommends<BR>doing through 2 tedious
command-line programs. The<BR>link John Wunderlich posted is
basically the same thing<BR>done through Explorer, if one only
needs to change 1 or<BR>2 items. In all cases the method is the
same: Running<BR>as Admin. one "takes ownership" of an item,
then<BR>edits permissions. (An admin. has power to take
ownership,<BR>which confers power to change permissions, but an
admin.<BR>does not have power to change permissions per se.
Sounds<BR>ridiculous, I know, but that's how it
works.)<BR><BR>&nbsp; I don't really understand the task. A
plugged-in Vista OS<BR>is imaged to E drive and then part of it
is copied to E drive?<BR>It doesn't seem to make sense, but
maybe I misunderstood.<BR>If it were me, before going any
further, I'd make sure both<BR>disks are mainly FAT32 data
partitions, in order to avoid the<BR>permissions problems.
There's no reason for XP to be more<BR>than about 5-10 GB, and
no reason for Vista/7 to be more<BR>than about 30-40 GB... that
is, there's no reason to risk losing<BR>data just because the OS
is lost through malware or some<BR>such. The data shouldn't be
on C drive in the first place.<BR><BR>-- <BR>--<BR>"John
Wunderlich" &lt;<A
href="mailto:jwunderlich@xxxxxxxxx";>jwunderlich@xxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;
wrote in message <BR><A
href="news:Xns9F33E54E764B6wunderpsdrscray@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>news:X
ns9F33E54E764B6wunderpsdrscray@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>...<BR>| "RJK"
&lt;<A
href="mailto:nosuch@xxxxxxxxxxx";>nosuch@xxxxxxxxxxx</A>&gt;
wrote in<BR>| <A
href="news:4e35decf$0$21968$a8266bb1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx";>new
s:4e35decf$0$21968$a8266bb1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx</A>:<BR>|<BR>
| &gt; XP Home edition in my main desktop PC.<BR>| &gt; "ALL IN
1 HDD Docking" station is attached by USB lead, and into<BR>|
&gt; it is plugged a 60gb 2.5 hard disk from a Toshiba L40 10x
Vista<BR>| &gt; Laptop, as a slave drive. ( drive L:\ )&nbsp;
...need to get off Sage<BR>| &gt; accounts v12 VAT records and
some photos.<BR>| &gt;<BR>| &gt; Immediately Ghosted it to
internal 500gb drive in my main PC ( E:\<BR>| &gt; ), for
safekeeping :-)<BR>| &gt;<BR>| &gt; Now I will copy selected
folders fron the Toshiba drive to my main<BR>| &gt; PC 500gb
drive E:\ ?<BR>| &gt;<BR>| &gt; How do I avoid "Permission
denied" etc. .....how do I take<BR>| &gt; ownership of the Vista
folders, to do with user accounts ...Vista<BR>| &gt; "users" etc
?<BR>| &gt;<BR>| &gt; regards, Richard<BR>| &gt;<BR>| &gt; Many
thanks in advance :-)<BR>|<BR>|<BR>| "How to take ownership of a
file or a folder in Windows XP"<BR>|&nbsp; &lt; <A
href="http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308421";>http://support.micr
osoft.com/kb/308421</A> &gt;<BR>|<BR>| HTH,<BR>|&nbsp; John
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