Re: Windows not load
- From: Alias <aka@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx”nval”d>
- Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2011 16:06:21 +0100
On 03/26/2011 03:44 PM, BillW50 wrote:
BillW50 wrote:On 3/24/2011 6:36 PM, Paul wrote:Test the computer with an alternate OS. Download a Linux LiveCD and
boot with that.
If the computer is not stable, freezes or the like, you have a
I did that Paul! Although Windows XP was running fine, I just wanted
to try Linux Live. After all I was told it wouldn't hurt a thing.
WRONG! Linux Live toasted my Windows XP install! And after hundreds
of hours of investigation it turns out that Linux Live really
touches your Windows XP install. Oh it sounds harmless and all, as
all it wants is to borrow the Windows swap file for its own purpose.
The problem was that I was running Windows XP on a SSD. And excessive
writes kills SSD. So I turned off the XP swap file. Ubuntu Live in
return gets mad and toasts your Windows install.
So I think you should warn people Paul. So others don't make the same
mistake that I had.
I can't report I've had a similar experience.
But my systems have nothing but hard drives.
The only practice I don't approve on, from the Linux community, is
"scanning" of drives as part of the startup sequence. Some LiveCD
distros, are known to "search" for a copy of the image you're booting
from. Presumably the purpose, is to do a loopback mount of the image,
as a replacement for accessing the CD itself. But I still don't
approve of monkey-business. A LiveCD should just mind its own
If you have a "toasted install", it sure would be nice to tell us what
got toasted, so we can judge the mechanism...
After running the most recent version of Live Ubuntu at the time in late
2008, which I was running from a flash drive on a netbook. Windows XP
would boot up with a window saying Windows Installer and nothing more
and the computer would lockup. I couldn't believe at the time that Linux
had anything to do with it.
So I restored XP from backup and it was running just fine. Then tried
Live Ubuntu once again and blam! It screwed up XP once again. Restored
again and tried a third time and Linux did it again. I quit testing
since it was very clear that Linux was screwing up XP.
During this testing I figured something out that I could do to get XP
running after Ubuntu toasted it. That is a have iBand (USR) sitting in a
window in the taskbar (toolbar). And if I boot BartPE and rename iBand
to something else, XP would run.
So that is all I know. Later I found out that Ubuntu borrows the Windows
swapfile and if there isn't one, Ubuntu misbehaves. I also tried Puppy
Linux and that one doesn't mess up XP on the same machine.
Although I will never allow Linux and Windows on the same machine
anymore. If I want to run Linux, I will remove Windows first. As I have
first hand experience that the two doesn't mix well.
Especially if you eliminate the swap file on XP, which is kind of stupid. So, the real culprit here is your stupidity as Ubuntu assumes people won't eliminate the swap file and most don't.
That said, on this machine I have three hard drives, one with XP, another with Win 7 and another with Linux Mint. I never have had a problem with any of them interfering with each other. When I get a new kernel update or Grub update, I power down, disconnect both XP and Win 7 and then power back up into Mint to do the updates. I use the BIOS to choose into which OS I will boot.
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