Re: Acronis Teamed Up with Western Digital

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The date and time was Tuesday, September 22, 2009 12:40:57 AM, and on a whim, M.I.5¾ pounded out on the keyboard:

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The date and time was Monday, September 21, 2009 3:56:31 AM, and on a whim, BillW50 pounded out on the keyboard:

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M.I.5¾ typed on Thu, 17 Sep 2009 08:59:07 +0100:
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Features Missing From the WD Edition
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Acronis Try&Decide
Application backup
Data backup (select files/folders)
Scheduling
Archive protection
Cleanup utilities
Disk utilities
Consolidating backups
Incremental and differential backups
Notifications
The missing features alone would suggest that the retail version
would be the better option. It is hardly expensive for the
protection it provides. It's £40 in the UK.
Not for me. I have the retail version and I like this version far
better. As I don't use the above features anyway and I find them
useless. Especially the Try&Decide which just slows your computer
down (it is faster to make a backup and restore) and incremental
and differential backups which takes far too long to complete
anyway. All I need and want is to backup and restore. Everything
else is just fluff.

How can the incremental and differential possibly take longer than a
full backup?

My weekly backup takes not more than about 10-15 minutes unless I do
a full backup when it takes around an hour and a half.
I don't know how it can, but it does. I am going by other backup
programs like Paragon Drive Backup 2009. About 30 minutes for a full
backup and 3½ hours for an incremental backup. Want me to try the
same under Acronis True Image?

So your critisism of TrueImage is based solely on a problem that you
have had with a totally unrelated product. That really makes for a
worthwhile post.

The incremental backup takes a pro rate time with TrueImage (in terms
of functionality, there isn't any real difference between incremental
and differential since TrueImage automagically handles the protocol
on restore).
I suggest that you do try the same on TrueImage. The timings I gave
are more or less correct.
Sounds like you never used Paragon Drive Backup. As if you did, you would notice that they are very similar. Both are great products. The big difference between the two is Acronis True Image support is lousy, while Paragon's is far better.

Also is it also true what they say about Acronis True Image, that it is too stupid when it comes to restoring? That you must restore each incremental/differential individually? How is that productive? Why even bother? Why not just use full backup and restore instead? Or better yet, just use BartPE and a file manager like A43 to make backups? No need to use that mount and unmount crap either using Acronis True Image proprietary file format.

Incremental's on any program would have to be done individually. Not so with differentials's. Incrementals save backup space, but when you need to track down the last time a file was modified, a differential is quickest and easiest in any of the programs I've used.


If you have to manually restore the incrementals after a full, then I would agree that a differential is quicker. But TrueImage takes care of all the restoration so it doesn't actually matter which way you go other than backing up incrementals is quicker than differentials as the number increases.



I'm not sure we're talking the same thing here. After a full backup, using incremental will only back up a file /that day/ that was modified, so if you don't pick the right incremental when looking for a file, you have to to search for it to find which incremental backup the modified file resides on (although on most programs the paths to the file will be included in the log even when the actual file isn't, so if you don't look in the folder, one just assumes the file is at the end of the path). Whereas a differential you can just use the latest one and even a modified file from a day after the backup will still be backed up.

I don't see how TI can "take care" of that for a user, unless of course you're restoring a full with "all" the incrementals after the full.


Terry R.
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