Re: Quick Launch - Show More Icons

Tim Med*** wrote:
Bill,
What I mean by logging off / logging back on has got nothing to do
with
network connections!

Although the same terminology is used to describe the 'logging' on to the
network - what I thought you would have understood is the need (after
changing MANY registry settings) to LOGOFF WINDOWS - or more precisely -
logoff your CURRENT USER (there's usually no need to reboot).

You see, when you change a Windows setting using an appropriate Window's
dialogue box - Windows has code built-in to 'refresh' that setting so you
can
see the change straight away.

But, when you change [edit] the registry directly - this often does not
happen - so you have to logoff the CURRENT USER (the "yellow" button above
"Shutdown" on the 'Start Menu' ) and then log back on again in order to
force
Windows to 'refresh' and so you can see the changes.

You will hear, time and time again, the expression : "You will need to
logoff
/ logon to see the changes" and they DO NOT mean by that: network
connections
or internet (dial-up or broadband) connections.

They mean logoff your current user profile, then log back on again.

==

Cheers, Tim Med***, Peckham, London. :-)

OK, but I saw the changes right away anyways. And the solution you
proposed doesn't work over here. After about 8 items on the taskbar, that
stupid scroll thing (OR another, somewhat different arrow block) appears,
instead of simply reducing the width of the taskbar items to as narrow as
possible (granted, you can't read them at that point, but I don't care about
that)





"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Why would I "log off"? It has nothing to do with being online (I'm on
dialup). I'm doing it (making the registry changes) *directly* in
regedit,
and it takes effect immediately.

Tim Med*** wrote:
Did you log off - like I said? - it will not be apparent unless you do.

There was another setting that got changed when a ran a comparison of
the
registry changes on using FreshUI (another "tweak" program):

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Policies\Explorer]
"NoToolbarsOnTaskbar"=dword:00000001

...so, that and then the others I will quote yet again :

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Policies\Explorer]
"NoTaskGrouping"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Explorer\Advanced]
"TaskbarGroupSize"=dword:00000002

...I don't know if adding that first value will alter anything for you,
but
those ARE absolutely all the settings that happened to be changed...

But you HAVE TO LOG OFF STRAIGHT AWAY - and then back on, to have the
registry change effected.

Also, having 'Grouping' set to ON and having 'Grouping' set to it's
lowest
value of 2 (i.e any more than 2 notepads get grouped under one taskbar
entry) does NOT switch off the up /down arrows.

But, as you can see in the screen-shots I posted earlier, you can still
have
14 open IE windows and 54 notepads open and still no scrolling arrows.

But, if you had a particularly 'short' usable area of Taskbar (because,
say,
you had loads of Quick-launch icons) you WOULD get the arrows much
sooner.

I have avoided seeing them in about two years since I implemented
Taskbar
Grouping in the first place.

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Cheers, Tim Med***, Peckham, London. :-)




"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I know how to use regedit pretty well (so I don't need to create a reg
file
to do it), as I've been in there numerous times, so that's no problem.
But
I disagree with using TweakUI, as I like to have specific issues
addressed
with specific registry key changes that *I* make and document, and not
have
it all hidden under the auspices of a program like TweakUI, but that's
just
me. :-) One of the two keys you mentioned earlier was non-existent, so
that part was
a non-issue.

The only thing left was to set the other one (below) to have a value of
2,
as you said below, which I tried, but that didn't and doesn't solve the
problem for me. Bill

Tim Med*** wrote:
If you mean the reg value below - then set it to '2' and NOT to '99'
(Hex63) - as when I first quoted that value I was thinking you wanted
the
opposite of what I now realize you want.

i.e. To get rid of the 'nasty' up /down arrow 'scroll things'...

You could make a reg file out of the following :

--------------- begin --------------

REGEDIT4

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\
Explorer\Advanced]
"TaskbarGroupSize"=dword:00000002

---------------- end ---------------

...Or, you could execute the following from a 'Command Prompt' :

reg ADD
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Advanced
/v TaskbarGroupSize /t REG_DWORD /d 2 /f

(The above command should be all on one line but may not appear so due
to
line-wrap. Please ensure that the command begins with 'reg' and ends
with
'/f')
But, in both cases, without the use of TweakUI - you MUST logoff /
logon
to see the change.

(Using the setting in TweakUI.exe 'refreshes' the setting without the
need
for logging off)

In fact, I really would advise you to download TweakUI - it's not a
'cheat' I use a number of "Tweak" programs to get what I want out of
XP -
I would definitely use the program in this case - simply because of
the
'refresh' issue - or I'd be forever logging off and logging back
on....

Just in case you change your mind :
http://download.microsoft.com/download/f/c/a/fca6767b-9ed9-45a6-b352-839afb2a2679/TweakUiPowertoySetup.exe


*Note - Please exercise care when editing the registry, always create
a
backup and / or create a 'System Restore' point first.

==

Cheers, Tim Med***, Peckham, London. :-)




"Bill in Co." <not_really_here@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I didn't get it sorted. It never worked for me (that one registry
key
you mentioned that may or may not exist did not exist in my
registry),
so no matter what value I put in the other key, the scroll thing
appeared. The only thing I didn't try was to create that other key
you
mentioned. Tim Med*** wrote:
Bill,
I did not read the lower side of the posts before sending my
last
post, just the reply you sent to my erlier post.

But I am glad you got it sorted, and hope my explinations were of
some
help... ==

Cheers, Tim Med***, Peckham, London. :-)




"Tim Med***" <timmed***@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Well Bill,
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