Re: I can't understand Windows Explorer

Tim Med*** wrote:
No, I wasn't referring to the computers that were local to it, I was
talking about another router that connects us to the rest of the
network, this just 'freezes' when it should not - and the remedy is
to turn it off and back on again. I was just trying to say that, in
my experience, routers 'lock' up and why not see if it was that! I
wouldn't expect to see offline computers to be left 'visible' in
'Network Places' either.

Assuming XP of course: I must be misunderstanding you: Network Places
shows all the network connections the machine has been set up for, all
the time. But clicking on one of them will get you nothing but a very
long pause. I've often wished it didn't, or at least indicated whether
they were active or not.
Or do you mean something else?

Regards,

Twayne




"John John - MVP" <audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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If *all* the machines are turned off and if you start only *one* of
them I wouldn't really expect the sole machine to see all the
machines that are turned off. I think that being able to see
machines that are shut down would depend on whether or not the
machines have been assigned static addresses or on their lease
duration from the router. I wouldn't expect routers to keep
machines with expired leases on their list. As for your having to do
a dance around the office and shutdown
machines, reboot the router, release/renew ip leases that is
probably all due to the quirky NetBIOS. If you know the actual IP
address of another one of the started machines you should be able to
reach it by its address. Windows Explorer and My Network places
relies on NetBios and not being able to see machines would probably
have more to do with whether or not any of the started machines have
the Browser service running and whether or not any of them are able
to assume the Master Browser duties. The way in which the Browsers
and machines poll on the network could cause machines to not show up
on the browse list for upwards of about 45 minutes. It isn't
unusual to have some machines not show up for about 15 minutes, when
the machine starts it will announce its presence for a few minutes
and if it gets no reply from a Master Browser it will stop
broacasting for 12 minutes then start a new announcement round after
the wait period. John

Tim Med*** wrote:
Stan,
I have to admit, I don't know too much about networking. At
work, we have four computers in one room and six in the other. If
all the computers are shut down and the router is left on then,
four out of ten times, when you switch on one of the computers in
either room, it no longer shows any connection. It's as though the
router is 'locked up' or something. Switching the computer back
off (on the computers I don't have admin rights to) and then
turning the ROUTER off and back on again sorts it out (I then open
a CMD prompt and type:: ipconfig /renew on the ones I do have
admin rights to so I don't have to turn those machines off and on).
This may be what happened on your system. ==


Cheers, Tim Med***, Peckham, London.


"Stan Hilliard" <usenetreplyMS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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On Mon, 27 Apr 2009 06:27:40 -0500, Stan Hilliard
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"Stan Hilliard" <usenetreplyMS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in
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1) In windows explorer I can click [My Network Places] [Entire
Network] [Microsoft Windows Network] [Workgroupname] and see two
computers listed. The third computer that should be there is
not. 2) I open another explorer window and click [search]. I
enter
the name
of the missing third computer. It is found. I double click it's
name. The searched-for computer's name appears in explorer's
title/caption. I go to [My Network Places] [Entire Network]
[Microsoft Windows Network] [Workgroupname]. All three
computer's are there. Q1 Why did all three computers not show up
in step (1)?

Q2) Does this imply a problem with the network configuration?
Stan Hilliard

Some basic considerations: Is 'File and Printer Sharing for
Microsoft Networks' installed on the Win98 machine for the
'Local Area Connection'
that the XP machine is trying to connect to. Also 'Client for
Microsoft
Networks' must be installed.
Cheers, Tim Med***, Peckham, London.
Client for Microsoft Networks is installed on the W98 machine.

'File and Printer Sharing for Microsoft Networks' installed on the
Win98 machine. I don't understand its two properties though:

"Browse Master" is disabled.
"LM Announce" is NO.

Stan Hilliard
I was gone for three days, so I shut down everything including the
cable modem and router. I started up everything again and each
computer's Explorer could see the other two computers as it should.

I had previously rebooted each computer so that doesn't explain
what happened. It must have been the restarting of the cable modem
and router that fixed it.

One additional anomaly. On the XP-Pro computer in Explorer's left
pane with the selection highlight on the Win98SE computer, the
right pane showed http://www.msn.com. I don't think I have ever
linked to msn before.

When I clicked on another computer in the left pane and back again
to the Win98SE computer, the right pane showed the folders that it
should show. Does anyone have an explanation for this?

Stan Hilliard



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