Re: Error 7023

On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 14:42:47 +0100, "Peter" <abc@xxxxxxxx> wrote:

I have just noted something strange (to me) in System Information:

I have 256 MB of physical memory, but only 24.85 available... I have a .pdf
file, a Word document, Outlook Express and 1 IE page open.

Is this normal?


I have two comments for you:

1. Yes, that's normal. Wanting to minimize the amount of memory
Windows uses is a counterproductive desire. Windows is designed to use
all, or most, of your memory, all the time, and that's good not bad.
Free memory is wasted memory. You paid for it all and shouldn't want
to see any of it wasted.

Windows works hard to find a use for all the memory you have all the
time. For example if your apps don't need some of it, it will use that
part for caching, then give it back when your apps later need it. In
this way Windows keeps all your memory working for you all the time.

2. I don't necessarily agree with R. McCarty that "256 Megabytes of
physical RAM isn't enough with today's average use." You ask "So, you
reckon that my problem with a slow computer is the amount of RAM?" He
may be right, and that may be the problem, but I wouldn't just assume
it without further investigation. Read below:

How much RAM you need for good performance is *not* a
one-size-fits-all situation. You get good performance if the amount of
RAM you have keeps you from using the page file, and that depends on
what apps you run. Most people running a typical range of business
applications find that somewhere around 256-384MB works well, others
need 512MB. Almost anyone will see poor performance with less than
256MB. Some people, particularly those doing things like editing large
photographic images, can see a performance boost by adding even more
than 512MB--sometimes much more.

If you are currently using the page file significantly, more memory
will decrease or eliminate that usage, and improve your performance.
If you are not using the page file significantly, more memory will do
nothing for you. Go to
http://billsway.com/notes%5Fpublic/winxp%5Ftweaks/ and download
WinXP-2K_Pagefile.zip and monitor your pagefile usage. That should
give you a good idea of whether more memory can help, and if so, how
much more.




"R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escreveu na mensagem
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Newer motherboards employ an APIC ( Advanced Programmable
Interrupt Controller ). This extends the original PC IRQ range up
to 23 Interrupt lines. This helps a PC to map devices using IRQ
Sharing. When XP is first installed it interrogates the BIOS to see
if the motherboard supports extended IRQ mapping and loads a
HAL (Hardware Abstraction Layer) driver appropriate for the type
of hardware. From the name, I'd suspect that you have an issue with
some form of APIC support. You can usually determine if your
setup has APIC by using System Info tool, Hardware Resources
category, IRQs - and noting the highest numbered IRQ in the map.

"Peter" <abc@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thank you so much.

Could you give me an idea of what the ID: 1: ACPIEC is all about?

Best

JB


"R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escreveu na mensagem
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Using McAfee almost always inflicts a "Noticeable" performance loss.
So some of your issues are most definitely related to McAfee. The boot
sequence indicates service time outs ( up to 30 Seconds ).

The kind of errors you report can be the result of Registry Cleaning.
It's
like death of a thousand cuts for a PC. The registry is a large database
of "HIGHLY" interdependent links and associations. Removing what
seems to be invalid keys/values may not result in immediate damage, but
will show up later as that association is called on.

Registry Cleaning ( & it's merits ) ranks as the top on-going issue
here.
This post is likely to kick off the "Yes it works", "No it Doesn't"
threads.

Unfortunately once the Registry is hacked on, there is no method of
repair to a known valid state. You can probably get the machine back to
a working state, but you'll never know or trust the integrity of the
Registry.
The time it will take to get a Clean/Error free boot may not be worth
the
effort. I'd be inclined to recommend a fresh install and choose another
Security product excluding any McAfee or Norton brand.

If you can't resist the urge to clean the Registry at the least invest
in an
imaging program like Acronis True Image and make regular images. This
way when something gets broken you can roll the machine back to a
working/reliable state.


"Peter" <abc@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Thank you very much for your help.

As for Registry cleaner the answer is yes. Over the years (4/5) I have
used in the past RegCleaner and more recently CCleaner.

I nver played around with Services, other than in MSconfig, where I
disabled most of what I felt was not necessary at Startup.

The boot is very long! I get the clock after some 15 seconds followed
by the battery and the sound icons, but then I have to wait some 90/120
seconds for the Internet and McAfee to come up, strangely usually
Internet before McAfee. I have cable connected to a router and then to
the computer through a cable. The delay, I guess in my ignorance may
be due to handshaking between the computer and the router with McAfee
making things worse. Even after all the icons are up I find it
difficult to open anything at all for some time. Eventually everything
works reasonable well, until McAfee or someone else decides to check
updates and then the susytem goes into a crawl, as if the memory was
being hijacked. Checking on CPU use does not show excessive use which
makes it strange why the computer should virtually hang if the CPU has
over 90% free usage.

Incidentally, I have done repeatedly all sorts of Virus/trojan/etc
checks and I am confident that the computer is clean; unmless of course
all the different programmes are useless...

Thank you again for your help.

JB

I will wait for your response before clearing the App and System Event
Logs.
"R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> escreveu na mensagem
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Has this computer ever had a Registry Cleaner used on it ? Also has
any Services had their Start Mode modified. It seems to me like you've
got a series of dependency group failures. I would clear both the App
and System Event Logs and do a reboot. Then check both logs for all
warnings and errors. Does your boot cycle time run ~45-60 Seconds
or is it significantly longer.

As to the hardware issue does your Device Manager have a clean
listing ? - ( No Red X's or Yellow Exclamation marks ).


"Peter" <abc@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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As far as Error 7023, it only happens when I Add/Delete a program (I
think only deleting). I have other Errors: 10010 DCOM which happens
EVERY TIME I start the computer and I don't know what to do; and ID1
ACPIEC which is happening more and more frequently and again I am at
a loss.

Any help on these would be much appreciated, so that I try to
understand what is going on in my very slow computer. All the MS
updates are up to date. I have XP Home SP3.

Below the errors that I keep getting:


Product: Windows Operating System
ID: 7023
Source: Service Control Manager
Version: 5.0
Component: System Event Log
Symbolic Name: EVENT_SERVICE_EXIT_FAILED
Message: The %1 service terminated with the following error:
%2

Explanation
The specified service stopped unexpectedly with the error indicated
in the message. The service closed

safely.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Product: Windows Operating System
ID: 10010
Source: DCOM
Version: 5.0
Component: System Event Log
Symbolic Name: EVENT_RPCSS_SERVER_START_TIMEOUT
Message: The server %1 did not register with DCOM within the required
timeout.

Explanation
The Component Object Model (COM) infrastructure tried to start the
named server; however, the server

did not reply within the required timeout period. There might be a
deadlock, or the program might not

have responded to the server initialization code within the timeout
period of two minutes

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Product: Windows Operating System
ID: 1
Source: ACPIEC
Version: 5.2
Symbolic Name: ACPIEC_ERR_WATCHDOG
Message: %1: The embedded controller (EC) hardware didn't respond
within the timeout period. This

may indicate an error in the EC hardware or firmware, or possibly a
poorly designed BIOS which

accesses the EC in an unsafe manner. The EC driver will retry the
failed transaction if possible.










"MowGreen [MVP]" <mowgreen@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> escreveu na mensagem
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Is the system event log showing the exact same error as in the KB
article ? Update.exe should have been updated to a much higher
version [the latest is V. 6.3.13.0] than what is showing in the
article by the installation of SP2 and SP3, along with the myriad
security updates issued since this KB was published.

MowGreen [MVP 2003-2008]
===============
*-343-* FDNY
Never Forgotten
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Peter wrote:

I get error 7023 repeatedly whenever I delete a programme.

I can't understand how to get the Hotfix below, and whether it is
applicable to XP SP3.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/328213/en-us

help!

JB














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