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I am posting this via giganews on June 19th at 12:24 PM EDT.

Alan

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Hi John,

Here are the posts I found from you in THIS thread, beginning at 12:29 PM
EDT and ending at 6:14 PM EDT, using my Supernews server account.

If you posted any others -- and they were deleted from Microsoft's servers
before they were propagated -- then they won't be here.

Alan

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 12:29 PM

"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uf0LcBW0IHA.4476@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

So then tell us, who do you think is removing the posts (on the MS
server)?

John

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 1:03 PM

"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eARCcUW0IHA.5728@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
It may not be moderated (strictly speaking) but there are posts that don't
ever make it to the groups, they are filtered by contents or poster
name/origin before they make it to the group servers.

John

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 1:11 PM

"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23maMKZW0IHA.3504@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I don't think it's a grudge against him as such, it's more that some of the
subjects that he raises are obviously pretty touchy for someone at
Microsoft, they don't like certain things being talked about on their
servers.

John


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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:22 PM

"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uAjrhiX0IHA.3920@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented from making it
to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" name seems like reason enough
to block posts! I guess the conversation is now over because I can no
longer express my opinion about the subject!

John

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 3:48 PM

"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23LReDxX0IHA.2408@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has appeared yet
the other one that I posted before this one hasn't. I tried to post the
same post again with my answer to Ron but the post hasn't been posted.

John

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 4:35 PM

"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:O0ED$KY0IHA.5728@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my 14:22 post)
and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the same message and another
(new) one with slightly altered contents and the posts aren't showing.

John

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:01 PM

"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:Ojd2MZY0IHA.4364@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron in another
post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post this I will post a
second post with a copy of my earlier reply.

John

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:01 PM

"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uFO0mZY0IHA.4364@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Lets see if this will work:

Whether you agree with Alias or not one can safely say that his posts
never contain spam, porn, links to porn or vulgar language, yet many of
his posts have been removed or prevented from ever appearing on the MS
servers. On broaching the issue of the practice of shipping computers with
"restorations" cd's and recovery partitions instead of real Windows cds I
have had posts censored in these groups, so I know that some things are
sensitive to someone at Microsoft, there are just some subjects that
someone at Microsoft doesn't like seeing aired out in public! Other than
that Microsoft is quite tolerant of what is being said in these groups (on
their servers), even when it is inflammatory or highly critical of
Microsoft.

John

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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 5:23 PM

"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23xoQ9lY0IHA.2312@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show up... There is
something in the post that someone doesn't like.

John John (MVP) wrote:


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Wednesday, June 18, 2008 6:14 PM

"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uMA3SCZ0IHA.704@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my post
must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google was
replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted repost made it
on to their servers, under another account with just my short "John" name.



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"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:uMA3SCZ0IHA.704@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my post
must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google was
replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted repost made it
on to their servers, under another account with just my short "John" name.

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d

(Look for post #27)

The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the powers
that be somewhere out there...

John

Bob I wrote:

You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence, and then
you would know what tripped the "filter".

John John (MVP) wrote:

I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show up... There
is something in the post that someone doesn't like.

John John (MVP) wrote:

Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron in
another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post this I will
post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply.

John

Bob I wrote:

perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word?

John John (MVP) wrote:

There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before my 14:22
post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the same message and
another (new) one with slightly altered contents and the posts aren't
showing.

John

Bob I wrote:

Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03, 12:11,
14:22 and this one at 14:48..

John John (MVP) wrote:

No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has
appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one hasn't. I
tried to post the same post again with my answer to Ron but the
post hasn't been posted.

John

Bob I wrote:

How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon?

John John (MVP) wrote:

It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented from
making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the "A" name seems
like reason enough to block posts! I guess the conversation is
now over because I can no longer express my opinion about the
subject!

John

Ron Badour wrote:

I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I have
never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken off a MS
server merely because there were discussions of or rants about
MS. Posts are removed upon the request of the poster if there
is a valid reason, if they contain blatant spam, contain
excessive profanity, have any reference to porn, could contain
dangerous info, etc. MS takes freedom of speech very seriously
and does not arbitrarily remove posts just because they are
critical of MS. With that said, I don't recall seeing posts
made by Alias so I don't know what might be objectionable in his
posts if they are indeed being removed. I would also be willing
to bet that a person could lose his/her job at MS if he/she
removed a post because of a grudge.
















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"John John (MVP)" <audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:eyXp0ci0IHA.2384@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
In that case, if it's "fixed" I should be able to past the exact text that
got the post banned yesterday and it should show on the server. I will
give it anoter try.

John

Bob I wrote:
Humm, I think maybe a combo, or someone "fixed" it.

John John (MVP) wrote:

I meant censored porn.

John

Bob I wrote:

Well that doesn't seem to trigger it, I already tried. ;-)

John John (MVP) wrote:

Try it with p-o-r-n

John

Bob I wrote:

Trying censored and alias

Bob I wrote:

Guess not.

Bob I wrote:

maybe the word porn?

John John (MVP) wrote:

Well, somehow or other, when I tried to repost to Ron earlier, my
post must have made it somewhere at the exact moment when Google
was replicating to its servers and by some fluke my attempted
repost made it on to their servers, under another account with
just my short "John" name.

http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/d9b0e7f6c12d588c/aaac990cbf85933d?lnk=st&q=#aaac990cbf85933d

(Look for post #27)

The post seems innocuous enough to me, but apparentlty not to the
powers that be somewhere out there...

John

Bob I wrote:

You could make multiple posts each containing a single sentence,
and then you would know what tripped the "filter".

John John (MVP) wrote:

I wonder how long I should wait for that other post to show
up... There is something in the post that someone doesn't like.

John John (MVP) wrote:

Let me try one more time. I will try to paste my reply to Ron
in another post, in a reply to your post. As soon as I post
this I will post a second post with a copy of my earlier reply.

John

Bob I wrote:

perhaps "Alias" is a forbidden word?

John John (MVP) wrote:

There are missing posts, I made a post/reply to Ron (before
my 14:22 post) and it hasn't shown up. I tried to repost the
same message and another (new) one with slightly altered
contents and the posts aren't showing.

John

Bob I wrote:

Dunno, I see posts from you in this thread at 11:29, 12:03,
12:11, 14:22 and this one at 14:48..

John John (MVP) wrote:

No, Bob. My second post (this one that you replied to) has
appeared yet the other one that I posted before this one
hasn't. I tried to post the same post again with my answer
to Ron but the post hasn't been posted.

John

Bob I wrote:

How so? Perhaps you are just checking too soon?

John John (MVP) wrote:

It appears that now my posts to this thread are prevented
from making it to the MS server, so even mentioning the
"A" name seems like reason enough to block posts! I
guess the conversation is now over because I can no
longer express my opinion about the subject!

John

Ron Badour wrote:

I have been posting in these newsgroups since 1996 and I
have never seen nor heard of a post intentionally taken
off a MS server merely because there were discussions of
or rants about MS. Posts are removed upon the request
of the poster if there is a valid reason, if they
contain blatant spam, contain excessive profanity, have
any reference to porn, could contain dangerous info,
etc. MS takes freedom of speech very seriously and does
not arbitrarily remove posts just because they are
critical of MS. With that said, I don't recall seeing
posts made by Alias so I don't know what might be
objectionable in his posts if they are indeed being
removed. I would also be willing to bet that a person
could lose his/her job at MS if he/she removed a post
because of a grudge.

































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