Re: So help save Windows XP
- From: "R. McCarty" <PcEngWork-NoSpam_@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 17:25:41 -0400
Microsoft's most profitable product is Office - Not Windows. In that
area Microsoft's dominance will continue. XP is good, but no amount
of petitions, customer input or other pressure will change the decision.
Windows XP's fate is sealed. Past April 2009 only Security updates
will be provided free ( Windows Update Tuesday ). HotFixes and the
other corrections to the OS will cost money in the form of an extended
support contract.
XP Home will continue on for the Ultra-Portable market. Even though
XP has a huge installed base over time vendors will stop delivering both
drivers and applications with XP native support.
"PA Bear [MS MVP]" <PABearMVP@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Charlie Tame wrote:
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
Charlie Tame wrote:
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
Charlie Tame wrote:My point is that the pressure to extend was there but not clearly
PA Bear [MS MVP] wrote:
Too late:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/windowsxp/future.mspx
I disagree a bit with that, the crucial factor was always extending
support. Another 6 years is a pretty good achievement in terms of
getting a big corporation to listen to customers. So instead of too
late
maybe "Just in time" would be the key.
Apples & oranges. Windows Life Cycle policy (for WinXP) hasn't
changed,
Charlie: WinXP SP3 will have Extended Support until 08 April 2014.
Support for WinXP SP2 ends 13 July 1010. More:
http://msmvps.com/blogs/donna/archive/2008/06/14/end-of-support-xp-service-pack-2.aspx
visible at first. Obviously MS did listen, but made insufficient effort
to clarify the situation.
Extend what? MS hasn't extended or changed anything as far as support
for WinXP is concerned.
Hmm, different meaning of the word extend I think. In my view when they
stop selling an OS then it is dead, however they chose to "Extend"
support for XP thus accepting the fact that for some years people would
want support. That is a good thing but was not that clear to many people
at first.
Repeat: MS did not choose to extend support for WinXP SP2 or SP3. The
LifeCycle Policy did NOT change. Extended support for SP2 was ALWAYS
going to end two (2) years after the release of SP3; extended support for
SP3 was ALWAYS going to end six (6) years after the release of the final
Service Pack for WinXP (i.e., SP3).
Also, the removal of XP from retail stores raises another question.
Many
machines out there cannot run Vista. Many of the original CDs, OEM or
otherwise are lost. What happens to those machines in the event of a
hard drive failure or some virus damage? This has not been too
reassuring for customers.
If you've got an OEM install of WinXP, MS wouldn't help you anyway.
Agreed, however if one cannot obtain a legit copy of XP to replace a
broken one with the the machine is dead dead. If the manufacturer cannot
supply and OEM CD you are hosed.
Lots of Win9x users have been and are hosed. If you don't wanna get
hosed, don't lose or break your CDs!
If you've lost your Retail WinXP CD, MS *may* be able to replace it for
you, they're just not selling new ones or allowing OEMs to manufacturer
new machines with WinXP presinstalled after 30 Jun-08.
Well, I hope they put a mechanism in place to do this and to replace
lost OEM keys with legit retail keys (I don't mean for nothing of
course) because if they do not the customer may well say "Okay, next
time I buy an Apple".
I wouldn't hold my breath IIWY, and I doubt MS's market dominance will
ever be truly threatened by Apple. Too many businesses are technically
and economically committed to Windows architecture in the long-term.
If you lose, e.g., your Owners Manual for your 1990 Chevy, chances are
GM's not going to replace it.
But if I lose the manual it doesn't automatically scrap the car. IMHO it
is better to be helpful and keep customer relations than have them look
at competitor's products, and the fact is there are now some capacle
competitors.
Well, how about if your '90 Chevy's engine fails: Is GM going to provide
or can they provide a replacement (at any cost)? Again, I don't think
Redmond's feeling any competitive pressure to speak of: They big money's
in Business, not Home/SOHO Users.
.
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