Re: Tips for a smoother running computer - *SPAM*

Cokopelli wrote:
<snipped by first responder to this conversation>

Malke wrote:
spam

mikeyhsd wrote:
if you think it is spam, then since you supposedly are an mvp,
have the post removed.

no need to create MORE SPAM by commenting on it.

Shenan Stanley wrote:
What makes you believe MVPs can have posts removed on a newsgroup
that is propagated throughout the world onto what is probably
thousands upon thousands of news servers and by thousands upon
thousands of different Administrators?

Plus - it's archived for an indefinite amount of time:
http://groups.google.com/group/microsoft.public.windowsxp.general/browse_frm/thread/938a2dd1555eaaa2/d61de09b71635b4f?lnk=st&q=#d61de09b71635b4f

mikeyhsd wrote:
since I do not read from anywhere but MICROSOFT
and the MVP do have the ability of having the messages
removed.

if you fail to understand how it can be accomplished, maybe
you need to turn in your credentials.

this has been accomplished for years. and is nothing new.
once it is removed from the Microsoft servers it goes away.
Please keep responses in the newsgroups for archival/future benefit.
I have copied your email to put it back into the conversation above...

A few points/responses to your comments...

First - if it is possible for MVPs to remove postings from the Microsoft
newsgroups - that is news to me. Does not mean it is not possible - but I
have never heard of it nor do I (nor do likely many other MVPs - although I
will let them speak for themselves) wish to start policing the public
newsgroups that can be posted to by *anything* with an Internet
connection...

Beyond that - why should an un-moderated newsgroup (the Microsoft newsgroups
hosted by Microsoft are primarily un-moderated AFAIK) suddenly be moderated
by anyone?
http://www.microsoft.com/communities/conduct/default.mspx

Why should the MVPs be the ones expected to police the Microsoft newsgroups?
The MVP title was granted not because we were good police, but because we
were willing to share our knowledge of specific products freely and fairly
often. http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/ and
https://mvp.support.microsoft.com/gp/mvpfaqs

As for me turning in my 'credentials' - I will point out again that my
'credentials' (one award that was given to me by Microsoft and my peers)
have nothing to do with my specific knowledge of the Microsoft newsgroups or
how they work. The award and title that goes along for the ride was granted
due to my postings and attempts at helping those in need on the Microsoft
(and possibly other) newsgroups and forums.

As for "once it is removed from Microsoft servers it goes away" <-- that is
only partially true. By the time it would be removed from the servers, it
likely has propagated to thousands of other servers. What you could say is
true is once you delete it from your preferred newsreader (assuming you
utilize one) it is gone from *your view*. You might pick it up again should
someone decide to respond to it - but you would only get what they quoted of
it and the follow-up responses.

And you may only read 'from microsoft', but that's just *you* again. Just
like with email - each person (IMO) should handle the newsgroup spam they
see in their own way. The Post Office (snail mail) doesn't moderate what
you get in your mailbox... I feel the same should be said for electronic
forms of communications. (Not saying you cannot sign up for different
services and such - in fact I am saying that or some manual method should be
the way it is handled.)

Perhaps you are correct - perhaps MVPs *can* have a posting removed. I'd be
more than happy to hear that we could do that. Still not going to go around
doing it as it would accomplish very little in the scheme of things and
would waste an inordinate amount of my time in doing something like that.

--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html


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