Re: IE dehanced?

On Feb 26, 1:39 pm, "Shenan Stanley" <newshel...@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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Vern Linard wrote:
the interface was made by idiots, the same idiots that designed
vista and windows media player
Unknown wrote:
How would YOU design vista and media player?
davegb wrote:
I'd start by putting "Print" in the same place, or somewhere very
like it. I haven't had the chance to work with Vista yet, but a friend
told me it took her 10 min to find "Print". Is that progress?

"Print"... In Windows Vista?  In Windows Media Player?
Unsure what you mean if you did not make a mistake or your friend does not
know the difference between Office and Windows. ;-)

In an app in Windoze Vista, I assume. I wasn't there at the time. You
can make fun of an "average" user, but they're a lot of them out there
and they don't need M$ screwing them around just to make another few
billion.

Or are you talking about Microsoft Office 2007?  I know many people who have
had trouble with that.  They sometimes feel a little sheepish when you show
them the built in help and type in "how do I print"... ;-)  I have started -
when giving people Office 2007 for the first time - showing them the ribbon,
the help and telling them, "If you cannot find it - click on the big ball in
the top left corner..."

Thanks for making my point. Why, at this point in the development of
software, would an experienced Windoze user have to go to the Help
screen to find out how to print? Ridiculous! Of course, we're all
sheepish when someone shows us something that's apparently easy to do
when they know how to do it.

Click the Microsoft Office Button, and then click Print.
  *Important* If you don't see the Microsoft Office Button,
    click Print on the File menu.
   Keyboard shortcut: To display the Print dialog box, press
    CTRL+P.

And an inability to locate something in a new product - that should not be
equated to a lack of progress.  There are people out there, by now, that
have ONLY used Office 2007.  If you were to give them Office 2003 - they
would have a difficult time finding things.

In addition - might I suggest these:

- The new look in familiar programs of the 2007 Microsoft Office system
 http://office.microsoft.com/training/training.aspx?AssetID=RC10148229....

- Wondering where your favorite Office 2003 commands are located in the new
2007 Office system interface?
 http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/training/HA102295841033.aspx?pid=CL....

--
Shenan Stanley
     MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Wayhttp://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

If there is significant ease of use improvement by changing an
established software procedure, then, by all means, go ahead. But when
a couple of hundred million users can't figure out how to do something
they've know how to do for years so that a couple of million new users
can find it easier, that's going backward. Developers SHOULD consider
which is the greater good, rather than which will justify them selling
yet another upgrade to line their pockets, without offering any real
advantaqe over the old system. Most of the changes I've seen in the
last few versions of Windoze and Orifice have been moving things
around to new places where they're no easier or harder to find for a
newbie, but most definitely harder to find for the experienced users.
That is not progress, that's marketing.
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