Re: in lieu of swapping out hard drives
- From: "C.Joseph S. Drayton" <csdcs@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 01 Feb 2008 04:08:07 GMT
Anna wrote:
"C.Joseph S. Drayton" <csdcs@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:47a1f893$0$90274$14726298@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Hi Anna,
Soory I didn't get back to you last night. my DVD-RW decided last
night that it was going to take a vacation <LOL>. I got the Fedora
8 ISO burned this morning (ended up burning at 1x instead of 2x
(another project to work on . . . why did I need to burn at a
slower speed). The following is what I have done.
1) I burned the ISO on the dv8100cto.
2) shut down the dv8100cto and connected a Seagate Barracuda 7200.7
mounted in a Mapower MAP-H31SS-01 drive case connected to my
dv8100cto via an Addonics AASA2SAP15C SATA-to-eSATA converter cable
which is plugged into a Addonics ADEXC34-2E with 2 eSATA ports
which in turn is plugged into the Expresscard port on the dv8100cto.
3) Turned on the computer and presses the [Esc] key within 3
seconds of powering it on.
4) Enter my BIOS password
5) Recieve screen asking which device to boot from
6) Choose CDROM
7) Run Fedora 8
8) Choose hd2 for the installation
9) Complete installation
10) Remove CD from CDROM drive
11) Shut down Fedora 8 with an actual shutdown (not reboot)
12) Unplug ExpressCard and turn on computer
13) Get my normal grub loader;
Ubuntu loads
Windows2000pe loads
WindowsXPpe loads
14) Using the Hiren's Boot Disk v9.1 use Acronis to check and see if
any new partitions have been created on either my primary or
secondary drive. None have been created.
15) Shutdown the computer
16) Plug in ExpressCard
17) Turned on the computer and presses the [Esc] key within 3
seconds of powering it on.
18) Enter my BIOS password
19) I recieve screen asking which device to boot from
20) Select second to last option which is the external hard disk
21) Fedora 8 boots up
I plugged and unplugged, boooted from local drives, etc. about a
dozen times. Each time the external drive was connected and I chose
it, it booted up successfully. I was also able to boot my local
drives including the CDROM with the eSATA connected.
If I have time this weekend, I will boot up some of my diagnostics
disk to see if I can determine why this works since HP
'TechSupport' says it can't. I will also see if can get the system
to boot from a thumbdrive. If I understood Tim correctly, his
statement was that HP was saying that the eSATA is handled by the
BIOS the same way that USB is. Since HP actually makes an
application for creating a bootable thumbdrive I will use their
image to create the boot disk. I have found the application and
downloaded it. Again I will post results after testing.
--
C.Joseph Drayton, Ph.D. AS&T
CSD Computer Services
Web site: http://csdcs.tlerma.com/
E-mail: csdcs@xxxxxxxxxx
C.Joseph:
Again, thanks for the additional info.
But just to make it as clear as I can as to what our primary - if not
exclusive - objective is re this issue...
Whether using an ExpressCard device with a eSATA port in a
laptop/notebook environment that's equipped with that interface, the
user can clone (using a disk-cloning program, e.g., Acronis, Ghost,
Casper, etc.) the contents of his/her notebook's internal HDD
containing the XP OS onto a SATA HDD connected to the ExpressCard's
eSATA port and the external SATA HDD will be bootable as a result of
this disk-cloning operation.
As I've previously indicated, our experience to date using a number
of different laptop/notebook CardBus & ExpressCard devices with SATA
& eSATA ports has been negative in this regard (although we haven't
used the Addonics device that you're using).
If I've correctly understood you, you have indicated you have
achieved success in this area, i.e., as a consequence of using your
Addonics ExpressCard device with a externally connected SATA HDD, you
are able to clone the contents of the laptop/notebook's internal HDD
containing the XP OS to an external SATA HDD and that HDD will be
bootable - at least with respect to your HP notebook. And at least up
to now, the process is reliable. And I emphasize that we're talking
about the XP OS, right?
Do I have all this right? Thanks.
Anna
Hi Anna,
The most common mistake that people make when they use programs like
TrueImage is that by default, TrueImage does NOT copy the MBR.
Assuming that you do in fact have a valid clone, yes the test this
morning establishes that WindowsXP would and will boot.
The BIOS when it boots from the hard disk does not say "I will boot
Linux but not Windows" or "I wil boot Windows2000 but not WindowsXp".
It looks for an MBR on the disk. If a valid MBR exist, that is what is
loaded. The fact that I have booted both Windows and Linux from the
eSATA connected to the dv8100cto is sufficient proof for me. I will if
I have time actually use Ghost and make an image of my WindowsXP
partition and let you know the results. It is a foregone conclusion
since it let Fedora create a bootabel drive on the eSATA and then boot
from it. If it can do the partitioning and such then doing the clonig
is no problem.
Before you get rid of your current configuration, I would recommend
that you verify the bootability of the image itself by putting it into
a desktop. It won't run right since your laptop drivers and such are
different, but it will try to boot. That is what you need to know. Is
there a valid MBR and is the OS base files on the disk necessary to
begin a startup.
My question for you Anna, is when your current eSATA setup is
connected, if you enter the BIOS, does it show the drive? Whether the
connection to the ExpressCard is eSATA or PATA, the question is does
the ExpressCard slot itself realize that their is an external storage
media connected. Via the ExpressCard slot. Some ExpressCard slot (not
cards that plug into it) require additional software under a running OS
to recognize the device that is connected to it. It just like for a
while Toshiba forced people to buy their PCMCIA floppy drives because
the chipset for their slot only recognized THEIR their PCMCIA card
connected to their floppy any other PCMCIA based floppy would not boot
and could ony be accessed from a running OS with the OS drivers loaded
for that PCMCIA card.
--
C.Joseph Drayton, Ph.D. AS&T
CSD Computer Services
Web site: http://csdcs.tlerma.com/
E-mail: csdcs@xxxxxxxxxx
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