Re: How can I recover a (large) file that I have started to COPY over (rather than delete) ?

Either way it remains one of the most STUPID things about m$Windows
that
if you over-write a file with a file of the same name that the system
isnt clever
enough to formally "Delete" that file first (i.e.put it into the
"Recycle bid") .
And thus copying data from disk to disk remains a very dangerous
process
- simply because if you get confused about which disk you have mapped
to what location you will delete you g*ddam data, apparently, for all
time.

I'm very sorry for your loss but you have a misunderstanding about how
computers and operating systems work. When you overwrite a file with new
data, it is never "formally" deleted in *any* operating system. This
behavior has nothing to do with Windows and everything to do with what
"Save" means - in Unix, Linux, OS X, and Windows.

I'm afraid that it wasn't "m$Windows" that was stupid.

Of course, if you had Leopard with Time Machine or Vista
Business/Ultimate, you could get back the previous version of your file.
Since you don't, learn to be more careful in the future.

Why are you being so smug and patronising?

Look - dont give me this 'holier than though' information theory BS.
An operating system is
simply a tool that is supposed to be designed for use, and you know
it. And a perfectly
natural mistake while using any o/s is to copy something the wrong
direction.

But if I "delete" a file it goes into the "Recycle bin". Just how hard
can it be
to design an operating system to perform the same activity whenever
it is requested to overwrite a file? i.e. To go through the formal
motions
of "deletion" and only then write to the disk with the new copy of the
file.

If you would stop to think for a single millisecond you would realise
that
the answer is "not remotely hard". The problem is that nobody as M$
bothered to think it through.

Let's be honest - if there was a half-credible alternative to Windows/
Office
for normal business use 3/4 of the business community would jump
ship. The reason we stay is bound up with the concept of monopoly
and has nothing to do with merit.

Ship

Malke was quite kind and diplomatic.

You must be the same guy who runs into a tree and blames the tree for
growing in your path.

Basically, if you're too careless to manipulate files correctly, have
someone else do it.

I'm quite positive this is not the first time you've overwritten a file.

Geez, Windows even asks you if you want to do it. Of course, that would
need some reading comprehension.

The upshot is, you screwed up and cannot take responsibility for your
actions. You blame everything except Bill Gate's haircut when in fact,
you are the culprit.

I never denied making human error. Afterall I am human. Yes I cocked
up. I made a mistake.
You guys on the other hand are clearly all Gods, and thus never make
mistakes.

Either that you or you are in the pocket of one.

What I am saying is that the system needs to be properly designed for
HUMANS to use.

When you routinely take backups, you routinely overwrite the same
file. And yes, every
time you do that Windows will say "are you sure?". All I am asking is
that there be some
way of recovering the data if you copy a file over another file, as
will happen to all of us
humans eventually. It has taken me 3 years to make this particular
error because I have
had to be incredibly careful as I already knew that over-copied files
do not go into
the Windows "Recycled Bin". Yes I am disappointed that it doesnt do
so. And yes I am
even more irritated that even if you download all sorts of special
recovery utilities, it STILL
can not recover the file no matter what you do.

If is the job of software developers to listen to feedback from their
customers.
Yes even if they are running in a near monopoly situation.

And it is the job of customer to moan like bl**dy h*ll when the
operating system that
we are lumbered with with hasnt noticably improved in what is it now,
5 years?

And just how many times would you like to be asked "Are you SURE?" ;-) I
suspect some of the new file system features will eventually be
released, but they were dropped to get Vista out the door in time.- Hide quoted text -


No it's not about being asked "are you sure".
That doesnt help.
If you copy files back and forth between different computers in
different directions
and in different configuations, and using differently assigned drive
letters every
day... EVENTUALLY (being human) one makes a mistake. One gets the
direction wrong.

"Are you sure?" doesnt help. At the time you thought you WERE sure.
But you were incorrect.
My point is that it's a TERRIBLY easy mistake to make. And that, being
as there is plenty
disk space on the computer, it would be a darned site easier to use if
the stupid o/s
simply performed it's normal "delete" function just before doing the
copying.

An analogy:

Think of the road system. Who amongst us never makes a mistake when
driving from
A to B - particularly when in unfamiliar territory? Well, luckily we
are allowed to take
side roads, do U-turns and generally change our minds... and
eventually with luck
we end up at the "B".
The current Windows system is like a road system that says "no
mistakes"
- i.e. if you get your route wrong and make just one mistake, then you
have to
go back to the start.
It's no use asking me on some winding cross-country junction "are you
sure?"
several times over. In fact it doesnt really help to even ask the
question.
Sometimes I am sure, and sometimes I'm not completely sure.

But an unforgiving system that forces me to go back to the start after
each
error is a system that is simply not designed for *use*.

At least not designed for us by us normal human beings. Maybe Bill
Gates
never makes any mistakes... but I forget myself Bill is of course
perfect
OF COURSE he never makes mistakes.

And never has he ever copied any file over another file that he
actually needed.



Ship
Shiperton Henethe









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