Re: all corrupt.

Reread 'present rules'. I agree a restoration method is required but
shipping a CD is not.
"John John" <audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Microsoft has censored three of my posts in this thread so obviously this
is a pretty touchy subject for them, they don't want their customers to
know what is going on with this. To engage in an open and frank
discussion on the subject the discussion will have to be taken to an .alt
group.

This is part of what I said in my last censored post:

"Of course they can! There is nothing illegal about it and that is how
they did it in the past. If you want to sell computers with Windows
installed on them you have to enter into an agreement with Microsoft.
Small system builders don't bother too much with this, they sell too few
machines or do not have the resources to comply with complicated
agreements so they just purchase generic (Microsoft) OEM disks and accept
the terms of the Small System Builders agreement, part of which stipulates
that they *must* include the generic OEM cd with the sale of the computer.
http://www.microsoft.com/oem/sblicense/default.mspx

The large OEM's have different agreements with Microsoft and part of their
agreement stipulates that they *must* include a method of reinstalling
Windows with the sale of the computer. The present rules state that the
reinstall method can be a real Windows CD (or a real copy, that the
manufacturer can stamp out itself), a manufacturer's restoration/image CD
or a service partition that contains the installation files or an image.
If the manufacturers don't comply with the rules they cannot sell Windows
software licenses. To put an end to the problems Microsoft can simply
state in its rules that the manufacturers must supply a real cd."

But then maybe this post might also be in vain, it too may be censored...

John

Unknown wrote:

Sorry, they CANNOT do that. Illegal.
"John John" <audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Of course Microsoft can dictate that real cd's be included with the sale
of new computers. They now dictate that the manufacturers must include a
method of reinstalling Windows, all they need to do is tell the
manufacturers that they must ship a real Windows cd with the computer.

John

Unknown wrote:


Why blame Microsoft? How about the manufacturers? Get the facts of each
case first. Example: One manufacturer provides instructions on
recoveries and gives instructions on creating recovery CD's.
It is not Microsoft's responsibility nor do they have authority to
dictate the shipment of the CD's.
"John John" <audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Without the XP setup CD it is next to impossible to properly maintain a
Windows installation. That Microsoft permits manufacturers to ship
Windows computers without this essential CD speaks volumes of what
Microsoft thinks of its customers, not much!

You should be able to carry out Malke's instruction by using the setup
floppy boot disks.

How to obtain Windows XP Setup boot disks
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310994/

Somehow I think that I already know what your next post is going to
be...

John

chawdretto wrote:



cheers for the help again, but my comp didnt come with any windows xp
cd when i bought it. it was already installed on it...is this a
problem or should it have the cd?





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