Re: all corrupt.

Microsoft has censored three of my posts in this thread so obviously this is a pretty touchy subject for them, they don't want their customers to know what is going on with this. To engage in an open and frank discussion on the subject the discussion will have to be taken to an .alt group.

This is part of what I said in my last censored post:

"Of course they can! There is nothing illegal about it and that is how they did it in the past. If you want to sell computers with Windows installed on them you have to enter into an agreement with Microsoft. Small system builders don't bother too much with this, they sell too few machines or do not have the resources to comply with complicated agreements so they just purchase generic (Microsoft) OEM disks and accept the terms of the Small System Builders agreement, part of which stipulates that they *must* include the generic OEM cd with the sale of the computer. http://www.microsoft.com/oem/sblicense/default.mspx

The large OEM's have different agreements with Microsoft and part of their agreement stipulates that they *must* include a method of reinstalling Windows with the sale of the computer. The present rules state that the reinstall method can be a real Windows CD (or a real copy, that the manufacturer can stamp out itself), a manufacturer's restoration/image CD or a service partition that contains the installation files or an image. If the manufacturers don't comply with the rules they cannot sell Windows software licenses. To put an end to the problems Microsoft can simply state in its rules that the manufacturers must supply a real cd."

But then maybe this post might also be in vain, it too may be censored...

John

Unknown wrote:

Sorry, they CANNOT do that. Illegal.
"John John" <audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:uoeAdOxHIHA.4476@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Of course Microsoft can dictate that real cd's be included with the sale of new computers. They now dictate that the manufacturers must include a method of reinstalling Windows, all they need to do is tell the manufacturers that they must ship a real Windows cd with the computer.

John

Unknown wrote:


Why blame Microsoft? How about the manufacturers? Get the facts of each case first. Example: One manufacturer provides instructions on recoveries and gives instructions on creating recovery CD's.
It is not Microsoft's responsibility nor do they have authority to dictate the shipment of the CD's.
"John John" <audetweld@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message news:uuRh7DjHIHA.4584@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


Without the XP setup CD it is next to impossible to properly maintain a Windows installation. That Microsoft permits manufacturers to ship Windows computers without this essential CD speaks volumes of what Microsoft thinks of its customers, not much!

You should be able to carry out Malke's instruction by using the setup floppy boot disks.

How to obtain Windows XP Setup boot disks
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310994/

Somehow I think that I already know what your next post is going to be...

John

chawdretto wrote:



cheers for the help again, but my comp didnt come with any windows xp cd when i bought it. it was already installed on it...is this a problem or should it have the cd?



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