Re: Windows over Linux??
- From: luisgarciaar@xxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2007 10:58:09 -0700
On 27 jun, 13:20, Alias <a...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
luisgarci...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On 27 jun, 12:15, Alias <a...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
luisgarci...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
On 27 jun, 10:29, Alias <a...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:I installed Ubuntu for a 79 year old lady in a wheelchair and she has no
luisgarci...@xxxxxxxxx wrote:So, as far as I can see, when you need a killer app you need a windows
On 26 jun, 11:58, Alias <a...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:I just did.
louisebeanie wrote:You can't compare Ubuntu and XP in such a simple manner.
Is someone able to tell me the advantages ofWindowsXP ProoverUbuntuLinuxThere are no advantages, only disadvantages:
7.04? I need help with a computer test I am doing and I can't really put it
into words? Can someone help me? Thank you so much. Louise.
Problem XP Pro Feisty Fawn
Viruses Yes No
Malware Yes No
Bloatware Yes No
Activation Yes No
WindowsGenuine
Advantage Yes No
Cost Yes No
Install on
Multiple Computers No Yes
I hope this helps and forgive the arrogant Microsoft Boys and Girls for
flaming you. They can't help it as they *know* the above is true.
Alias
Ubuntu evolved a lot as a desktop alternative, BUT Microsoft has aIf one needs office, one can run it in Wine. If one needs a gaming
clear advantage with aplications as Office (if you want we can compare
it against OpenOffice) dominating the market, DirectX for gaming,
hardware support, and so on.
machine; you're right,Windowsis the OS for gaming but only because the
people who make the gaming software don't make it forLinux. The same is
true for hardware support. AsLinuxbecomes more popular and people get
wise to the Microsoft Con Game, the hardware and gaming people will
start supportingLinux.
Again you can't compare costs, you MUST use the TCO (Total Cost ofIt hasn't cost me one red penny since I installed it a year ago.
Ownership), just because you can download and operating system and
install it for FREE, it doesn't mean that won't cost any moneyover
time.
Genuine Advante? I don't think this is a bad thing, it's justGenuine Advantage is a flawed program that only inconveniences paying
marketing for a service, and lets face it, UBUNTU also sell support,
but it isn't mandatory (this adds to the TCO by the way)
customers and does absolutely nothing to stop piracy, not that MS'
paying customers should be forced to help MS or the police catch
pirates. IBID WPA.
Viruses, worms, and all kind of malware targets all kind of operatingThere are no known viruses or malware in the wild for Ubuntu. Period.
systems,Windowshaving such a big market share, is THE target. I know
your response, 60% of Web sites runs Apache/Linuxwhy they aren't they
attacked? well, read this :http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/05/windows_linux_unix_security_v...
Luis García Bustos
A mortal blogger, trying to get richer with ads :)
http://luisgarciaar.blogspot.com
What's the most expensive component of an averageWindowscomputer? The
CPU? No. The motherboard. No. The hard drive? No. The video card? No..Windows? YES.
Alias
api emulator... this is because?
:)
Maybe you have an alternative, use bochs or qemu for running Windows
for doing real works (hey! at leats you are running Linux at "low
level")
About Virus?
Remember that IT security is more just virus, I'll say it againt read:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/01/05/windows_linux_unix_security_v....
In an enterprise enviroment where desktops PCs are the weakest link
this is far more critical that viruses, I (as a sysadmin) don't like a
denial of service, don't like buggy daemons, I work in a network with
4000 windows 2k and xp machines, a VIRUS NEVER pass the DMZ, or wasn't
filtered by our Windows Antivirus (TrendMicro).
Cost again
It's really easy (my salary and extra hours add to the TCO) to keep up
todate with services like Windows Update, it's really easy the
management with ActiveDirectory (less people add less to the TCO).
Now for the regular guy desktop
Now, far from the IT deparment, I just wonder what drandma could say
if her new printer or webcam isn't recognized by Ubuntu, but hey! it
really easy, I should send a mail, something like this:
"Grandma, download the latest kernel (do you know where to get it no?,
we had this problema a few months ago), for the new webcam there is a
driver written by a 15 years old kid, download the tarball (I'm sorry
grandma, this isn't at the ubuntu universe or multiverse for download)
a compile it, should work ok!
P.S grandma, remember the tar parameters you forgot last time!"
Luis García Bustos
A mortal blogger, trying to get richer with ads :)
http://luisgarciaar.blogspot.com
problem with it at all and she's had it for over six months so you were
saying? Course, she's using an nVidia video card and a C-Media sound
card. If it were ATI or Creative, she would have problems but that's
only because Creative and ATI don't feel the need to provide drivers for
Linux.
Alias
1. Try Ubuntu with my grandma... =) maybe this has something to do
with it: PLUG AND PLAY, INTEGRATION, STANDAR GUI, INTUITIVE (OUT OF
THE BOX).
If you've never used Windows, *nothing* is intuitive, standard, out of
the box or plug and play. Your grandma knows how to install drivers for
her video card?
No need for, out of the box the GUI worked ok (XOrg does the same?),
same with audio.
1.1 I don't know about you, but my proffesional services has a cost
(that adds to the TCO) - yes, even for grandma -
I'm not in the computer business. When I help people with computers, I
do it out of the kindness of my heart. I don't need the money.
Sorry, I can't I AM IN THE COMPUTER BUSINESS SO MY DESICIONS NEED TO
BE SOUND AND MUST WORK, AT THE LOWER COST AND MAXIMUM QUALITY FOR MY
CLIENTS.
2. If you use Win32 you can use the hardware you choose, by price,
performance, specs, it's not narrowed by the operating system, a word
for you: FLEXIBILITY
Tell that to the Vista users who can't use hardware that hasn't been
written for Vista yet.
How do you know you are using the best operating system: wait a few
weeks and all your drivers all there, even the most specialized one.
3.You didn't answer my question about why if Ubuntu is so great (and
Linux in general) there are api emulation layers (Wine), distros that
try to mimic the "look and feel" (Linspire) of Windows, as far as I
know Microsoft doesn't try to mimic Linux, a word for you: MARKET
LEADER.
Um, Windows was stolen from Apple and Xerox. oops.
Hey! I have an idea, I will code a better Minix than Minix... seems
familiar no?
Flaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaameeeeee :)
Luis García Bustos
A mortal blogger, trying to get richer with ads :)
http://luisgarciaar.blogspot.com
If MS keeps up the anti piracy crap, it will no longer be a "market leader".
Now, go check for AV updates, malware updates, do a clean up and defrag
your computer, something I don't have to do with Ubuntu.
Alias
If you don't do any maintenaince you are being negligent... but :)
Luis García Bustos
A mortal blogger, trying to get richer with ads :)
http://luisgarciaar.blogspot.com
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