Re: Norton Ghost

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Rich:
I wonder if at this point you would be best served to simply fresh install
the XP OS onto your new 80 HDD and forget about the disk cloning operation
involving your old 6 GB HDD. Then just connect the latter as a secondary
HDD, copy whatever data you can (and that you need) from that drive onto
your new HDD and be done with it. Needless to say, that 6 GB HDD is
virtually a useless storage device in a PC and it's hard to believe it will
serve any practical use in your system. My advice would be to just dump that
6 GB HDD.
Anna


"Rich" <Rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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yes like, it shows in Device manager under Disk Drives and i can view the
properties, drivers blah blha, but in my computer it isnt showing as a
local
Drive no. No icon, Drive letter or anything, just the 6GB old HDD although
the 80GB isnt partitioned but is brand new.

hope that helped, im beginning to confuse myself.

Rich
--
- skin our way through XP -

Richard Edmonds,

Sleaford,
Lincolnshire,
England


"Anna" wrote:



"Rich" <Rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I am trying to clone a 6GB HDD with all data, XP files, drivers
etc.
onto a
new 80GB unpartitioned HDD. I have installed the Ghost utilities
and
have
run
the program, the new HDD is connected as a 'slave' with the old
HDD
being
master still, browsing for a location to make the backup (on the
new
HDD)
i
can't seem to locate the new HDD on the screen although it is
located
in
Device Manager.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Rich.
--
- skin our way through XP -

Richard Edmonds,

Sleaford,
Lincolnshire,
England


"Bob Harris" wrote:
GHOST can do two similar, but different, things: (1) make/restore
an
image
of a hard drive, (2) clone a hard drive.

You want to use the "clone" option. That should copy everything
form
the
small disk to the larger one, including the master boot record.

It has been a while since I did this, but along the way GHOST may
offer
to
one of the following (1) retain size, (2) expand to fill new hard
drive,
(3)
custom/advanced. The first will result in 6GB of used sapce and
about
74GB
of unused/free space on the new hard drive. The second will result
in
all
80 GB being used. The third will permit more than 6 GB but less
than
80GB
to be used.

The primary reason for chosing anything but expand to fill is if
you
want
to
create a second partition for some other purpose. Note that XP can
create
partitions from free space, but it can not resize/merge/split
existing
partitions. For that you would need something like Partition
Magic.

An alternative to cloning is to make an image on a third hard drive
(e.g.,
external USB), manually partition the new drive, then restore the
image
to
the new drive. But, in your case that would be extra work, unless
you
want
some special partition structure.

A couple of cautions: (1) This sort of operation is best done
from a
bootable floppy or CD, not from some hidden partition. That is, do
not
attempt cloning from within XP. (2) After cloning the hard drive,
and
before booting XP, disconnect the old hard drive, move the new one
to
the
master position, and change the jumper to master. Otherwise XP
might
get
confused.


"Rich" <Rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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but how do i clone it all without me actually seeing the HD there?

thankyou so much for your long reply.

Rich


"Anna" wrote:
Rich:
Yes, that's the "rub" all right...

A few questions...

1. Re your 6 GB HDD - the "source" disk. Can we assume it's
non-defective;
it was your bootable HDD containing the XP OS; it booted without
incident
and thereafter functioned without any problems?

Assuming your answer to 1. above is "yes"...

2. What version of Ghost are you using? We've used the Ghost 2003
version
for a fair number of years in an XP environment and by & large it has
proven
to be an effective disk-cloning program. We've never been taken with
its
disk imaging capability but I guess that's of no import to you anyway.
When
we've used the Ghost 2003 program it was nearly always with a Ghost
bootable
floppy disk or Ghost bootable CD to undertake the program. We seldom,
if
ever, used Ghost's Window's GUI for undertaking the disk-to-disk
cloning
process. I believe that's what Bob was referring to in his (1)
"caution".

3. It's hard (if not impossible) to tell from this distance why your
source
HDD is not being detected by the Ghost program (again, assuming your
answer
to 1. above was "yes"). I don't know if you're working with the Ghost
9
or
10 versions. Our experience with those versions was, for the most
part,
quite negative, and we stopped working with those programs some time
ago.
(Although I quickly have to add that many users were satisfied with
those
versions).

Anyway, if you're using the Ghost 2003 program or would be receptive
to
using that version (it was bundled with the Ghost 9 & 10 retail, boxed
versions) using a Ghost 2003 bootable floppy disk or CD as described
above,
I can provide you with step-by-step instructions for carrying out the
disk
cloning process if you think it will be of any help to you.
Anna


"Rich" <Rich@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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yeah that would be brilliant, yeah it was the boot Hd and is the Hd
that
XP
was installed upon, i am using Ghost 10 but i have ghost 9 aswell, i
dont
think i have a 2003 version although. The thing is ( i dont know if i
said
it
clearly, sorry) that even its not showing in my computer (as a Disk
Drive)
or
Norton Ghost, but in Device manager. The ghost CD is a bootable one as
it
states it is anyway lol.

To answer your first question Anna, yes it was loaded onto the HD
without
problems and has worked since.

Hope this helps,

thanks again for all support,

Rich


Rich:
I'm not sure I quite understand your comment that your intended source
HDD -
the 6 GB one that is your boot HDD - is "not showing in my computer (as a
Disk Drive)", but is shown in Device Manager (I assume you're referring
to
its listing in the "Disk drives" section?). Are you indicating that the
drive is not being shown in My Computer as the "Local Disk C:" or some
such
designation? And it's not listed, or if it is listed, it's not assigned a
drive letter in Disk Management?

If I correctly understand what you're saying, these are your problems -
not
the Ghost program.

And once again - that HDD boots & functions without any problems?
Anna





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