Re: SVCHOST.exe & Auto update program causing CPU to run at 100%

Hi Eugene - I assume you're talking about some (relatively large?) number of
machines? If so, are you using WSUS? If so, then the procedure, as I
understand it, is to update the Server to WSUS 3.0 and it will, in turn,
handle updating the individual agents/machine. If you aren't using WSUS,
then I believe I saw that the individual (standalone) agent will be
available through MS and/or Windows Update (I assume as an "updating the
updating software" when you first go there, if required - I updated
manually, so I can't detect it when I just went there to test), though I'm
not positive of the time frame. Others may have a little better info on
this, and I'd invite their comments on the time frame.


--
Regards, Jim Byrd,
My Blog, Defending Your Machine,
http://defendingyourmachine2.blogspot.com/



In news:uQeHcATkHHA.4188@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
Eugene Tan <TechHelp-at.insights.com.sg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> typed:
|| hi,
||
|| Just to clarify, this fix for the SVChost problem, it's been posted
|| to WindowsUpdate or do we have to download and install on
|| each and every PC?
||
|| Eugene Tan
||
|| =========================
|| "Jim Byrd" <jrbyrd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
|| news:udeCIvNjHHA.4596@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
||| Thanks for the kind words, Michael. You should be aware that MS
||| has come out with a fix for this as of 30 Apr, and I would
||| recommend that you implement it:
|||
|||
||| The newly released 'standalone' version of Windows Update Agent
||| 3.0, v.
||| 7.0.6000.374, for 32 bit machines is available here:
|||
http://download.windowsupdate.com/v7/windowsupdate/redist/standalone/WindowsUpdateAgent30-x86.exe
|||
||| You will also need to install or re-install KB927891, here:
||| http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=927891 for a complete fix.
|||
|||
||| For those using Windows Server - Courtesy of Bobby Harter, Program
||| Manager, WSUS, Microsoft, WSUS 3.0 was released on April 30th and is
||| avaialble now on the Microsoft Download Center. Full information,
||| documentation, samples and links to the bits can be found here:
||| http://www.microsoft.com/wsus. WSUS 3.0 RC will be supported until
||| May 31st 2007 - WSUS 3.0 supports upgrade of WSUS 2.0 SP1 and WSUS
||| 3.0 RC.
|||
||| The MS WSUS team believes that this solves all three 'svchost'
||| problems that folks have been experiencing. See here:
||| http://blogs.technet.com/wsus/archive/2007/04/28/update-on.aspx
|||
|||
|||
|||
|||
|||
|||
||| --
||| Regards, Jim Byrd,
||| My Blog, Defending Your Machine,
||| http://defendingyourmachine2.blogspot.com/
|||
|||
|||
||| In news:B2949899-FC1F-49D0-A840-2AA986A1C8E4@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,
||| Michael Doyle <doyle007@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> typed:
||||| Hey Everyone,
||||| Jim Byrd's fix on the 15/4/2007 worked successfully. I never got
||||| back after a few days cause I wanted to wait a few weeks, download
||||| some more updates and see what happens. Everything runs fine now.
||||| Thanks a million Jim Byrd, I recomend you go and work for
||||| microsoft.
|||||
||||| --
||||| Regards
||||| Michael Doyle
|||||
|||||
||||| "Jim Byrd" wrote:
|||||
|||||| Hi Michael - How knowledgable about doing things are you? Do you
|||||| know how to
|||||| start and stop services? How to run a .cmd file? If not, you'll
|||||| need access to someone who does to avoid problems. The following
|||||| assumes you're on Windows XP. If you're confident about what
|||||| you're doing, then try the following first - only if it doesn't
|||||| work, then there's another level of stuff that can be done
|||||| following:
||||||
|||||| 1. Stop and Disable Automatic Updates, Background Intelligent
|||||| Transfer Service and the Cryptographic Service.
|||||| 2. Rename the folder %SystemRoot%\SoftwareDistribution to
|||||| %SystemRoot%\OldSoftwareDistribution
|||||| 3. Open Notepad and create a file containing the following:
||||||
|||||| REGSVR32 WUAPI.DLL
|||||| REGSVR32 WUAUENG.DLL
|||||| REGSVR32 WUAUENG1.DLL
|||||| REGSVR32 ATL.DLL
|||||| REGSVR32 WUCLTUI.DLL
|||||| REGSVR32 WUPS.DLL
|||||| REGSVR32 WUPS2.DLL
|||||| REGSVR32 WUWEB.DLL
||||||
||||||
|||||| Save this file as 'Wudll.cmd' (without the quotes) to any
|||||| convenient location then exit Notepad and double click on the
|||||| file you just saved. You should get a 'Sucess' mesage for each
|||||| of the .dll's listed above.
||||||
|||||| 4. Now Re-enable to Automatic status and then Start each of the
|||||| services you stopped before - Automatic Updates, Background
|||||| Intelligent Transfer Service and the Cryptographic Service.
||||||
|||||| 5. Now Reboot. Now Reboot Again. (Yes, twice.)
||||||
|||||| See if that solves it - give it a couple of days. If so, then
|||||| you can delete 'OldSoftwareDistribution'. I would request that
|||||| you post back with your results. _Only if the problem does
|||||| re-occur_, then do the following _exactly_:
||||||
|||||| 1. Go to http://wiki.djlizard.net/Dial-a-fix and download
|||||| Dial-a-fix v0.60.0.24 (2006-10-27)
||||||
|||||| 2. Unzip it to a new folder at root with any name, e.g.
|||||| c:\Dial-a-fix-v0.60.0.24
||||||
|||||| 3. Double click on Dial-a-fix.exe in that folder.
||||||
|||||| 4. Click on the following:
|||||| Options/tooltips (just to get an idea of what it does in
|||||| each section. :) )
|||||| Both boxes under Prep
|||||| The 'all' (top) box for Sections 2, 3 and 4 (which will
|||||| automatically be set when you check 3)
|||||| In Section 5, 'Programming cores/runtimes' and
|||||| 'Explorer/IE/OE/shell/WMP' only.
|||||| Click 'Go' . (Some of the re-registrations may take what
|||||| seems like a long time for some .dll's - Don't be impatient.)
||||||
|||||| 5. Reboot (if Dial-a-fix doesn't do it automatically at the
|||||| end). Now Reboot Again. (Yes, twice.)
||||||
||||||
|||||| See if that does the trick, and, again please post back with your
|||||| experience.
||||||
|||||| --
|||||| Regards, Jim Byrd,
|||||| My Blog, Defending Your Machine,
|||||| http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/
||||||
||||||
||||||
|||||| In news:B0A54111-9CA7-4D63-9F1A-2E139D6B0C20@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,
|||||| Michael Doyle <doyle007@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> typed:
|||||||| From following Pati's Instructions. She also states to rename
|||||||| the SoftwareDistribution, in order for windows update to
|||||||| recreate it. (didn't work)
||||||||
|||||||| Like wise I also downloaded that microsoft patch, and that also
|||||||| had no effect.
||||||||
|||||||| The ony fix is to turn off Auto Update and remember every so
|||||||| often to manually run the microsoft updates. ( which is
|||||||| rubbish, considering microsoft is still supporting XP)
||||||||
|||||||| The PC in which I was having this problem was a HP Celeron 2gig
|||||||| with 512mb ram.
|||||||| The original windows build is MS XP home version 2000, with out
|||||||| service packs. Without service packs there is no auto update.
|||||||| But as soon as you install SP2, this is where the troubles
|||||||| begin. As soon as windows automatic updates start windows runs
|||||||| as slow as a slug.
||||||||
|||||||| I also checked the same set-up on a Pentium 4 2.8gig with 512mb
|||||||| ram, running xp home with sp2. The SVCHOST.exe also runs at
|||||||| 100% when performing updates. However, as the PC is a little
|||||||| faster, the duration in which the updates are installed are
|||||||| less then the first PC I encountered this problem on.
||||||||
|||||||| so far i can only come to the conclusion: Microsoft hasn't
|||||||| taken into account PC's that are around 2 years old running
|||||||| XP. In order for people to have a system that is secure they
|||||||| also need to afford & update their hardware to the latest
|||||||| specs.
||||||||
|||||||| If anyone can proove me wrong and can fix this is a champion.
||||||||
||||||||
|||||||| Regards
|||||||| Michael Doyle
||||||||
||||||||
|||||||| "PA Bear" wrote:
||||||||
||||||||| NB: Deleting C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution <=this folder or
||||||||| its contents will delete your Update History at WU/MU website.
||||||||| --
||||||||| ~PA Bear
|||||||||
||||||||| PA Bear wrote:
|||||||||| Try deleting the contents of this folder (or the folder
|||||||||| itself) & reboot:
||||||||||
|||||||||| C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution\DataStore
||||||||||
|||||||||| If no joy, try deleting the contents of this folder (or the
|||||||||| folder itself) &
|||||||||| reboot:
||||||||||
|||||||||| C:\WINDOWS\SoftwareDistribution
||||||||||
|||||||||| Also see http://support.microsoft.com/kb/927891
||||||||||
|||||||||| Workaround: Change the default from Microsoft Update to
|||||||||| Windows Update: Go to Microsoft Update > Click on Change
|||||||||| Settings in left pane > Scroll to bottom of page > To Stop
|||||||||| Using Microsoft Update > Disable Microsoft Update software
|||||||||| and let me use Windows Update only (check).
||||||||||
|||||||||| Michael Doyle wrote:
||||||||||| Pati's Solution to SVCHOST & Autoupdated causing CPU to run
||||||||||| at 100%
|||||||||||
||||||||||| Pati's instructions worked. HOWEVER, is this applicable to
||||||||||| windows XP home:
|||||||||||
||||||||||| 1. she doesn't state to turn auto update on from the control
||||||||||| panel come the
||||||||||| end of the Instructions. The last part of her instructions
||||||||||| states to "start
||||||||||| WuAuServ". I thought this command would trigger the auto
||||||||||| update to turn on
||||||||||| but it doesn't.
|||||||||||
||||||||||| 2. If I then turn the auto update on in the control panel,
||||||||||| turn it on, then
||||||||||| go to windows update and search for updates. SVChost.exe
||||||||||| runs at 100% again.
|||||||||||
||||||||||| 3. I have read other answers to this problem, like it may
||||||||||| be a virus. But I
||||||||||| have tried two different hard disks, with fresh installs of
||||||||||| XP home and both
||||||||||| cause the same 100% cpu utilisation when windows update is
||||||||||| turned on.
|||||||||||
||||||||||| 4. Finally: why does Microsoft have an auto update program
||||||||||| when all it does
||||||||||| is make the computer come to a grinding hault.
|||||||||||
||||||||||| Can someone please help, cause this is causing me a lot of
||||||||||| grief.
|||||||||||
||||||||||| PATI's Instructions can be found at the following website:
|||||||||||
||||||
|||
http://forums.microsoft.com/WindowsOneCare/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=906329&SiteID=2


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