Re: computer getting slow for not the usual reasons

Paul

Have these errors stopped or continued to occur?

How many hard drives do your have?

Have you monitored the actual use of the pagefile over a session? Does use of the pagefile steadily increase or rise and fall back?

You may find it helpful to know exactly how much of your pagefile is being used. Use page file monitor to observe what is the peak usage. Start it to run immediately after start-up and look at the log at the end of the session.The log is Pagefile log.txt. If you right click on the file in Windows Explorer and select Send to, Desktop (Create Shortcut). The same applies to XP_PageFileMon.exe. A small utility to monitor pagefile usage:
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/utils/xp_pagefilemon.htm

Note programs using undo features particularly those associated with graphics and photo editing require large amounts of memory so if you
use this type of programme check these first observing how the page usage increases when they start and whether the usage decreases when
you close the programme.


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Hope this helps.

Gerry
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FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
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paulmars wrote:
this is the complete error from the link provided and I did look
at the previous days and it was there too.

Explanation
This problem is typically caused by a failing cable that
connects the drive to the computer.


User Action
Replace the cable.

Here is the event properties error with the link mentioned:

Event Type: Error
Event Source: Disk
Event Category: None
Event ID: 11
Date: 2/19/2007
Time: 8:09:28 PM
User: N/A
Computer: PAULMARS
Description:
The driver detected a controller error on \Device\Harddisk0\D.

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.
Data:
0000: 04 00 68 00 01 00 b6 00 ..h...¶.
0008: 00 00 00 00 0b 00 04 c0 .......À
0010: 01 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0018: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0020: 00 6e e4 a2 01 00 00 00 .nä¢....
0028: 0e 09 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........
0030: ff ff ff ff 03 00 00 00 ÿÿÿÿ....
0038: 40 00 00 8f 02 00 00 00 @..?....
0040: 00 20 0a 12 80 03 20 40 . ..?. @
0048: 00 00 00 00 0a 00 00 00 ........
0050: 00 00 00 00 e8 d9 a8 81 ....èÙ¨?
0058: 00 00 00 00 f0 62 94 81 ....ðb??
0060: 02 00 00 00 37 72 d1 00 ....7rÑ.
0068: 2a 00 00 d1 72 37 00 00 *..Ñr7..
0070: 80 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ?.......
0078: f0 00 04 00 00 00 00 0b ð.......
0080: 00 00 00 00 08 03 00 00 ........
0088: 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ........

here is the shutdown error that said no user action:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: Userenv
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1517
Date: 2/20/2007
Time: 3:21:34 AM
User: NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM
Computer: PAULMARS
Description:
Windows saved user PAULMARS\Administrator registry while an
application or service was still using the registry during log
off. The memory used by the user's registry has not been freed.
The registry will be unloaded when it is no longer in use.

This is often caused by services running as a user account, try
configuring the services to run in either the LocalService or
NetworkService account.
For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

Here is another:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: MsiInstaller
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1001
Date: 2/19/2007
Time: 9:26:32 PM
User: PAULMARS\Administrator
Computer: PAULMARS
Description:
Detection of product '{78CC3BAB-DE2A-4FB4-8FBB-E4DADDC26747}',
feature 'Complete' failed during request for component
'{4FE9AEF8-7464-49B7-AF0F-85E61456685E}'

For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

Here is another:

Event Type: Warning
Event Source: MsiInstaller
Event Category: None
Event ID: 1004
Date: 2/19/2007
Time: 9:26:32 PM
User: PAULMARS\Administrator
Computer: PAULMARS
Description:
Detection of product '{78CC3BAB-DE2A-4FB4-8FBB-E4DADDC26747}',
feature 'Complete', component
'{2139AF56-C6EC-4B3E-8CCC-F14D18AEC562}' failed. The resource
'C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu\Programs\Lavasoft
Ad-Aware SE Personal\' does not exist.
For more information, see Help and Support Center at
http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

Those are all last night. I have had no errors since replacing
the cable. Let me shut down and see if I get another shutdown
error... Nope.
paul

"Gerry Cornell" <gcjc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Paul

With cables check connections first.

Normally Reports from a single boot / session are sufficent but
you should look back to the previous session to see if problems
in the current session have occurred previously. Some errors
occur and after you have restarted never appear again.

Post complete copies here as it is difficult to offer further
help without this level of feedback. Interpretation of error
reports is not just a matter of reading what they say. Microsoft
have developed the elaborate system of reporting but the
interpretation of these reports by Microsoft lags far behind. I
am not sure I agree with some where it says "no user action
needed"! A tip for posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and
double click on the error you want to copy. In the window, which
appears is a button resembling two pages. Click the button and
close Event Viewer.Now start your message (email) and do a paste
into the body of the message. Make sure this is the first paste
after exiting from Event Viewer. --

Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~





paulmars wrote:
Application error said no user action needed.

System errors did not all have this explanation, but all
had this user action:

Explanation
This problem is typically caused by a failing cable that
connects the drive to the computer.


User Action
Replace the cable.



I will do such right now...

"paulmars" <pmars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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7 last startup Errors in System, one last shutdown Warning in
application. Most cases the right click menu appears ok,
including many examples on at page.

I am registered at aumba and have used hijackthis, but it
really did not seem relevant here, especially since reinstall had the
same condition. Event logs seem the most likely, since there
are errors and
warnings. I will check out "HOW TO: View and Manage Event
Logs", however it looks like it will need my undivided
attention, I will ASAP, but not right now. Thanks.

Just now I looked and I see error and warnings everyday and
they are different. I should look into all of them? That is
overwhelming. Paul

"Gerry Cornell" <gcjc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Paul

Have you looked in the system and application logs for Warning
and Error Reports in Event Viewer for the last boot. These can
be difficult to interpret so post copies here. Disregard
Information Reports.
You can access Event Viewer by selecting Start, Control Panel,
Administrative Tools, and Event Viewer. When researching the
meaning of the error, information regarding Event ID, Source
and Description are important.
HOW TO: View and Manage Event Logs in Event Viewer in Windows
XP http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308427/en-us

Part of the Description of the error will include a link,
which you should double click for further information. You can copy
using copy and paste. Often the link will, however, say there
is no further information.
http://go.microsoft.com/fw.link/events.asp (Please note the
hyperlink above is for illustration purposes only) A tip for
posting copies of Error Reports! Run Event Viewer and
double click on the error you want to copy. In the window,
which appears is a button resembling two pages. Click the
button and close Event Viewer. Now start your message (email)
and do a paste into the body of the message. Make sure this is the
first paste after exiting from Event Viewer.
Another thought:
http://windowsxp.mvps.org/slowrightclick.htm

Malware -notwithstanding what you say.

Install and run HijackThis:
Download HijackThis (Freeware)
http://tomcoyote.com/hjt/

Finally run HijackThis and post the HijackThis log to the
HijackThis forum here:
http://aumha.net/

You will need to register with Aumha to be able to post.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


paulmars wrote:
No spyware, adware, malware, virus, etc. Amply free space.
Defragged. Cookies and temp files deleted.

After two weeks, I finally gave up and zeroed the entire
harddrve and reinstalled xp and security apps. The condition
re-appeared. Sometimes task mgr cpu usage is very high,
other times it is
quite low. I invistigated all running processes in task mgr
and nothing that does not belong is there.

Only three items in msconfig Startup and they are all
legitimate and have been there forever.

I downloaded 3 different memory testers, two if which ran all
night (different nights) and found no problems.

Computer acts like I removed 1/2 the ram. It just gets too
busy much faster then previously. It did for about two weeks
before I zeroed the HDD and it is still like that after reinstall
xp. I totally give up...what could it be. I had installed no new
programs. A few hours ago, I right clicked on the desktop to
make a new dir
and the context menu poped up and I choose new folder and the
hour glass appeared and I waited over 5 minutes for it to
make the new folder. Nothing else was opened. This is an extreme
example of what I deal with, but u get the idea. Sometimes
when it is starting to get slow, I will open task mgr
or something else, and it will not open, then maybe 15
minutes later it will open. Or I will try and close an app and it
wont, but maybe 1,2,5,12 minutes later it will close.

As long as I keep just a few things open, it usually does not
get too slow, but sometimes I am not that lucky.

One thing that I can not do anymore at all is upload videos
to youtube. It starts ok, but the upload gets slower and
slower and finally freezes. Nothing else is frozen, just the upload
percent. This is how I first noticed this condition on my
last xp install and it continues today. Even closing all
unneeded apps and starting the upload and leaving the
computer will not get the entire file uploaded. However, from what I said above, this
is not the only thing to causes my system to slowdown and
sometimes freeze. Very rarely does the entire computer
freeze, because I can usually since the slowness getting
intolerable and I close
somethings. HELP!

PS: I wrote this is notepad and saved it to desktop. When I
opened it, it took 12 seconds to open in notepad.

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