Re: USB connected HDs

• From: "Jeff" <jeff@xxxxxxxx>
• Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 23:21:36 -0500

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Anna wrote:

Ron Sommer wrote:

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Anna wrote:

"Jeff" <jeff@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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I purchased a Sata/IDE to USB Adapter to work with 6 old IDE
hard drives I accumulated from other PCs over the years. I
connected the included external power adapter to the HD and
the USB adapter to
the USB 2 ports on a PC running XP SP2.

These PC USB ports work perfectly with other backup external
HDs I own and with USB flash drives. But: I cannot get my
old HDs to show up on the PCs using the
adapter cable.

I tried this with 2 different PCs, both running XP SP2 and
had the same problem with ALL my old IDE hardrives (set with
jumper as "MA") using the adapter, so I do not think it is a
case of the HDs being bad or the PCs and their USB ports
being
bad.

What happens in all cases is:
1) the lights light up on the adapter showing it to be
connected. 2) the icon showing that a USB device is connected
shows on the Windows taskbar, and when hovered on says there
is a storage drive connected. BUT,
a) no drive shows up in "My Computer", even on repeated
refresh. b) Computer management / Disk Management / does not
reveal the
presence of the USB adapter connected HD
c) Device Manager shows (under USB controllers) that a
storage device is present and enabled and working correctly.

*Do I have to do anything in XP to make My computer show the
HDs attached to the PC with the USB adapter?

Thank you.

Jeff

Anna wrote:

Jeff:
I'm assuming you're working with one of these small,
"hold-in-the-palm" adapters.

It could be the adapter itself. As a matter of fact it
probably *is* the adapter. Our experience with these type of
devices has been, by & large, quite negative. To the point
where we rarely recommend
them. In our experience, we've come across too many defective
adapters in
that they didn't work at all or worked fitfully. Hopefully,
you have return privileges for the device and if so, you may
want to exchange it for another one - trusting that that one
will work
as advertised. Anna

"Jeff" <jeff@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Yes I am. Actually it is a Vantec SATA/IDE to USB Adapter I
picked up at

MicroCenter for $29. There was another one also sold at
MicroCenter for the same price made by a different manufacturer
that I could try. I just have a sneaky feeling the problem is
not with the
adapter but with my jumper settings.

I can easily return it but I am only using it to access these
old HDs from long gone PCs that I want to be able to wipe
clean so I can safely throw them out. Using an IDE-USB adapter
seemed to be the
only easy way I could get to wipe these old HDs.

Jeff

Jeff:
As it happens...Vantec is one of the more reliable brands in our
experience so perhaps the problem is not with the device as I
suspected. The type of adapters I was referring to was primarily
the ubiquitous no-name generic "brands". But since you indicated
this non-recognition problem exists for all six (6) HDDs and
with two different PCs it was (is) hard to escape the
conclusion that a defective device is the culprit, inasmuch as
you've indicated that there's no problem with
device-recognition affecting your other
USB devices.
We're assuming in all this, of course, that you've properly
connected the device to your HDD(s) both with respect to the
gizmo itself and
the auxiliary power supply connector.

I really don't think HDD jumper configuration is at the root of
this problem as you suspect in another of your posts. And since
you also indicate that all you want to do is "wipe them clean"
before junking them, why don't you simply install each as an
internal HDD in one of your machines and use Disk Management to
perform that operation and be done with it? Anna

Thanks Ana

That is what I will end up doing. It just "seemed" seductively
easier to just connect the USB adapter than open the case, remove
an installed HD and add the old HD, etc. Had I gone that route, I
probably would have been all finished by now <grin>.

Ah well.

Jeff

"Jeff" <jeff@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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It is not necessary to physically mount the drive in the case.
The simplest is to use the DVD/CD cable.
This eliminates having to mess with the jumpers on the old drive.
Just support the drive so there is no chance of touching the
circuitboard on the drive to the computer case.
Formatting by its self will not clean the drive.
Format, then write zeroes to the drive.
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/sysinternals/FileAndDisk/SDelete.mspx

"Jeff" <jeff@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Yes I am aware that formating or just deleting are not sufficient.
I was planning to over write them with a wipe utility.

By "DVD/CD cable" do you mean the cables that are presently
connected to my CD and DVD drives? Will doing that permit me to
use
a wipe utility (sDelete or others) to overwrite them?

Jeff

Jeff:
Ronald's suggestion is a good one. We do this all the time. But
we're
a bit leery about recommending that approach to someone who has had
no experience fiddling around with the "innards" of a machine. We've
encountered too many situations where the user lost his or her HDD
because it wasn't propped up securely against the machine. A HDD
that falls to the floor is not a desirable thing. But if you're
careful, it's certainly an expedient way to go.

Anyway, what Ronald is apparently referring to is the IDE
(signal/data) ribbon cable that's used to connect IDE devices such
as the ones connected to your other HDD and your optical drive(s).
Use whatever is available and is relatively easy to get to. If, for
example, you have only your boot HDD connected to a IDE cable and
the middle connector of that cable is free (no Slave connected),
then you could use that for a connection to the HDD you're planning
to format. Doesn't matter in this case whether the HDD is connected
as Master or Slave - just jumper it accordingly. Anna

Thank you. That's what I will plan to do.

You guys have been very helpful.

Jeff

You could have a problem with the boot order of hard drives.
IDE drives usually are listed before SATA drives.
If you connect a bootable IDE drive, it will try to boot.
If the IDE drive tries to boot, check the boot order.

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