Re: Vista protection cost?

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Kerry Brown wrote:
> "caver1" <phillip@xxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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>> Kerry Brown wrote:
>>> Your favorite search engine can help you find the many Vista forums
>>> and newsgroups where the topic has been discussed ad nauseam.
>>>
>>> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=vista+drm&meta=
>>>
>>> http://search.live.com/results.aspx?q=vista+drm&mkt=en-ca&FORM=LVSP
>>>
>>> If you read the articles with an open mind and check out both sides
>>> of the story you'll see that the article you reference is mostly
>>> correct technically but the conclusions are skewed. The author has an
>>> obvious anti Microsoft bias. DRM is not specific to Vista. If the
>>> content providers have their way every player, software or hardware,
>>> will have these limitations or be excluded from playing high
>>> definition content in high quality mode. In other words any player
>>> that does not have these hooks will play in a degraded mode if/when
>>> the content providers start using the proposed encryption. If the
>>> content providers implement this, as things stand now Vista would be
>>> able to play the high definition content if secure hardware is
>>> installed. XP, Linux, and other OS' would not no matter what hardware
>>> was installed. They would play the content in degraded mode. In order
>>> to play the content in high quality mode they would have to have the
>>> same hooks installed or somehow crack the encryption. This is a big
>>> problem but it's not a Vista problem. It's a problem with the content
>>> providers trying to use technology to solve a problem that is better
>>> solved by other means. Let's place the blame in the proper place and
>>> fight DRM restrictions with facts rather than use it as an excuse for
>>> Microsoft bashing.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I agree with you mostly but at the same time with the power MS has MS
>> doesn't have to accept DRM as it is. MS could demand changes in DRM
>> implementation. The recording industry can't afford to lose MS
>> backing. But from the looks of it MS is siding with the rest of the
>> industry with a DRM that goes to far.
>
>
> And how would they explain this decision to their shareholders and more
> importantly their customers when they can't use the media they just
> bought? I agree that DRM goes to far but business wise I can't see any
> legitimate business not at least having the hooks there to use it if it
> comes to pass. There is no way a legitimate business could bypass it if
> it's implemented.
>


And if the majority of users use Windows, say thru media center or
whatever, to listen/watch this media and MS doesn't go along, who are
the other business going to sell their media to? Its a two way street.
The media producers cannot afford to alienate MS. Why do you think they
want MS onboard?

A little over half-way through this article is the REAL answer
to the question: "Why is MS doing this?"

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"The only reason I can imagine why Microsoft
would put its programmers, device vendors, third-party developers, and
ultimately its customers, through this much pain is because once this copy
protection is entrenched, Microsoft will completely own the distribution
channel. In the same way that Apple has managed to acquire a monopolistic
lock-in on their music distribution channel (an example being the Motorola
ROKR fiasco, which was so crippled by Apple-imposed restrictions that it was
dead the moment it appeared), so Microsoft will totally control the premium-
content distribution channel. Not only will they be able to lock out any
competitors, but because they will then represent the only available
distribution channel they'll be able to dictate terms back to the content
providers whose needs they are nominally serving in the same way that Apple
has already dictated terms back to the music industry: Play by Apple's
rules,
or we won't carry your content. The result will be a technologically
enforced
monopoly that makes their current de-facto Windows monopoly seem like a
velvet
glove in comparison."
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The author of the article has an obvious dislike for Microsoft. If the content is ever encrypted then in the US it is against the law to try and bypass it. This is the reason the hooks for DRM are in Vista. There are two sides to every story. Usually the truth is somewhere in the middle. Here is another link that refutes a lot of the article in question.

http://www.dasmirnov.net/blog/2006/12/31/windows_vista_drm_nonsense

Read the article and the comments. This is is highly charged issue that won't be solved by technology. I am sure there are inaccuracies in both articles. If the proposed DRM encryption isn't implemented then the problem is moot. This is where people should be focusing. Microsoft and all the other manufacturers of playback software and hardware aren't going to let themselves be locked out of high quality content so they will be developing methods of playing it back. If we can stop the or alter the plans of the media content providers then all the rest doesn't matter.

--
Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP - Shell/User
http://www.vistahelp.ca


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