Re: SUSE LINUX SUCKS! MICROSOFT VISTA IS GOING TO KILL LINUX!



i put ubuntu 6.06 lts on my machine. it does eveything i need a operating
system to do. i dont do music. or movies on here. just surf the web , email,
and such.
no problems with it at all. both dvd burner and cd burner work. and they are
old ones.
but, i am having a headache trying to get my lexmark printer to work.
that is my fault for buying a cheap printer.
this is a old computer. via mobo, 989ghz, 512mb, 40gb,
installation was easy, and i was on the web in under an hour.
i still have windows. dont use it much anymore.
"Rex Ballard" wrote:

Hadron Quark wrote:
Robert Vriens <rob.vriens@xxxxxxxxx> writes:

Ken Johnson schreef:
Just tried Linux for the first and last time.

That's to bad, why don't you give it a try a second time. You have to do
this with Windows every month. ;-)

Huh? What does that mean?

Just a "cheap shot" - many Windows "upgrades" don't go off very
smoothly. Many third party products (especially the third party
commercial products that compete with Microsoft's big money producs -
like Notes, SmartSuite, WordPerfect, Corel Draw, and Borland Kylix
developed products). Some companies, such as Borland, have dropped
their software operations completely. Others have all but ceased
operations.

How can they sell this bloated crap is beyond reason.

They don't. We just give it away among all interested. I asume you are
not.

Not all versions.

Very true. Some of the "free" versions are more expensive in terms of
support pain, than the commercial versions. Personally, I'd much
rather pay $60 for SUSE Linux, or Linspire than mess with some really
raw flavor of Debian.

Is Linux tested before they release it?

Every Open SOurce producte is probably tested with 17.000 testing
people. That's about three times more our Redmond collegues do.

Not its not. Its used by 17000 users after release.

Many Linux distributors have two products. One, the freely
distributable one, has lots of beta software, lots of upgrades and
usually isn't as well tested for compatibility. SUSE OpenLinux,
FreeSpire, and Fedora are all good examples.

One the flip side, the commercial versions are well worth the extra
money. The commercial versions are rigorously tested, enhancements are
only released when they won't adversely impact compatibility with
existing applications, and they are usually fully LSB-3 compliant.

None of my MP3 files would play.

Of course not. Microsoft (or equivalents) has 'protected' that.
Sorry? Wrong.

MP3 is a standard established by the MPAA. There is a trivial license
fee for the decoder, which is covered in the player included with the
commercial versions of Linux. The 'free' (as in beer) versions don't
have this software. Users can purchase and download

I could not used my DVD player either.
Same reason.
Wrong.

This one is a bit more obvious. There was a rather ugly court case
involving a young man in Texas who offered a link to a site in Norway,
and almost ended up being dragged to California by the MPAA.
Eventually, the young man was offered a settlement he couldn't refuse,
but this did leave the legal premise of DMCA untested.

Most commercial distributions have properly licensed the MPAA drivers.
Most freebie distributions do not have these drivers at all. It's very
"dicey" to try and distribute the decoders without getting the proper
license from the MPAA. The court might eventually find in your favor,
but the MPAA could make your life really miserable for saveral years
before that happens. Most Linux distributors feel it's just not worth
the risk.

Nothing to do with MS.

Microsoft is one of the members of the coalition that developed and
established the DVD-CSS encryption technology, and Microsoft did
suggest that using DMCA and NDA would be enough to protect the flimsy
encoding standards.

The irony is that the MPAA published their own white paper which
provided more than enough information to implement a DVD decoder, and
by not making the nationalized keys easily available (for a price?),
they were inviting the publication of decoders. The actual decoder was
published in Norway, which does not have DMCA laws.

The only reason the MPAA persued the case was because a very
"pro-Microsoft" site advertized the software and drivers as a "piracy
tool". Since they only claimed that this was the only practical use
(decrypting encrypted movies and then writing them out as unencrypted
DVDs or "Video CDs". This is a problem in some countries - like India,
where american movies haven't been published with the India key
activated. There are stores that offer "Video CD" movies, which are
MPEG-2 encoded movies - usually in NTSC resolution.

http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/openlaw/DVD/DeCSS/
http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/openlaw/DVD/dvd-discuss-faq.html

http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6921

A linux "server" is not much good for listening to MP3 files or watching
a DVD.

There are DVD and MP3 viewers available, but they are generally not
free, or they have code which cannot be disabled. For example,
RealPlayer, ipodder, mpg123, and about 20 others. Here are some good
sites to look at.

DVD Players
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/5644
http://xinehq.de/
http://www5.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/news.html
http://freshmeat.net/projects/vlc/

http://cambuca.ldhs.cetuc.puc-rio.br/xine/


Here's TurboLinux which does offer a fully licensed DMCA compliant
player.
http://www.oreillynet.com/linux/blog/2006/07/a_fully_licensed_dmca_complian.html

MP3 Players
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/3420

http://www.ccs.neu.edu/home/bchafy/mp3.html

Commercial MP3 Players
Lp3 - Parallel port mp3 player
Raite AV715 - MP3 CD, CDDA, SVCD, DVD Player
Afreey LD-2060 - Similar as above
Apex AD-600A
NetDrives' Brujo
D'Music Mp3CD Portable
MamboX - Similar as above
Kiwi Portable -Similar as above
MP-ROM - Automotive player
TerraTec M3PO
Empeg
Mp3 TidalWave - MP3 & SVCD Player
Diamond Multimedia's RIO
Saehan's MPMan
MP3 Station - for PlayStation
Pontis MPlayer3
MP3 Anywhere
penguinradio
Homebrew MP3 Projects
Standalone projects

http://w3.one.net/~fergy
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Monitor/9049/index.html
http://leute.server.de/peichl/mpegcde.htm
http://www.elmp.org
http://www.sdf.se/~dj/
http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Screen/5699/
http://galaxy.ch/MusicBOX/
http://igalaxie.com/ltt/mp3/
http://www.mdc.net/~paulb/cajun/
http://students.vassar.edu/~alfore/cajun/
http://www.psionics.demon.co.uk/mp3/index.html
http://dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de/~olli/project/
http://lcdat.mesterhazy.net/
http://www.sparta.lu.se/~bjorn/whitney/
http://www.oscar-mp3.de/
http://www.softlab.ece.ntua.gr/~sivann/mp3ophono/
http://www.image.dk/~spaceguy/mp3
http://members.tripod.com/~videoripper/mp3player/
http://members.xoom.com/Cyphaetus
http://www.coe.neu.edu/~riker/
http://djweis.plconline.com/~djweis/player/
http://surf.to/mp3cd


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