Re: Valid Product Keys for Windows XP SP2 Professional Volume License Edition

"Nina DiBoy" <nin@xxxxxx> wrote in message
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Gregg Hill wrote:
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Using that line of thinking, if I buy one TV from a store, then take 90
more and give them to my friends without being paid anything for them, I
am not stealing. Interesting.

Not an applicable comparison. TVs are a physical item. A license is not
a physical item.



It does not have to be a physical item to be stolen. If I hack into your
bank account and transfer the balance to mine, I think you would be
outraged, in spite of the fact that no physical item was taken from you.




Your statement is incorrect and should read, "If one were making copies
and **distributing them** with the key without being a reseller **or
under any other circumstances,** that would be stealing." Anyone who uses
it without a vlaid license is in effect stealing it.

In principal, it is no different than walking into a computer store and
buying one XP package, then stuffing 30 more into a bag, walking out the
door, and giving them to anyone who wants one. You paid for one license,
but you took 30 others to distribute. Whether for profit or not, it is
unethical, even if it is not illegal.

Would you do that? Why not? The end result is the same. One was
purchased, the rest were stolen.

Again, not a realistic comparison. Retail theft does not equate to
preserving one's fair use rights.


Theft is theft. If you use something without the right to do so and against
the agreement which you acknowledged, it is an accurate comparison.



Name one court case where in any person using software for
non-commercial purposes in the privacy of their own home not strictly in
line with the license has been taken to court and lost.


I have said over and over again that a law need not exist to make
something wrong. To site a Biblical example (not to thump a Bible, but
just to prove a point), when Cain killed Abel, there were no lasws
against murder. Was it OK to kill his brother, then?

Yet again, not a realistic comparison. Murder does not equate to
preserving one's fair use rights.


The point was not to compare murder to what you claim to be "fair use"
rights. The point was that there does not have to be a law against something
to make it unethical, immoral, or stealing.






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If I sign a contract and go against it, but the person wronged decides
not to pursue it, I have still breached my agreement. I would still be
unethical. The person wronged does not have to prove my lack of ethics in
court for it to be an unethical act.


Does this negate the fact that it is unethical to infringe upon one's fair
use rights with a license to begin with?


Nope. You AGREED to the EULA. HONOR IT or sotop using the product. Stop
being a liar.


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No, I advocate that the EULA from MS for windows is unconscionable.

Then you should not agree to it, then renege on your word. You should
avoid the product and use only other manufacturers' software.

I said I don't agree to it in principle. I have not broken it.

But you stated you would, and at that time you would be an unethical thief.




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