Re: Discussion Group Posting Protocol
- From: hkeycurrentuser <hkeycurrentuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2006 11:05:01 -0800
Hi, David.
Thanks for your courteous attempt to actually ANSWER my question rather than
malign me publicly for my unintentionally improper use of this forum.
<<I answered your original query in your original thread but since you're
using the web based interface you may have lost easy access to it, so here's
my response again:>>
No, I didn't lose it, but what you were directing me to do is what I'd
already done and I guess I didn't know how to author a post advising you that
your advice wasn't working without seeming ungrateful. Perhaps I should have
replied with SOMETHING? If so I apologize for my oversight.
<<I believe that the perceived double sort that you mentioned was actually a
simple sort on the Name field and the results that you see are due to the
alpha-numeric results of the sorting, i.e., track numbers of the MP3 files
would come before the album name of the M3U file as per this example:
26 - The Beatles - Let It Be .mp3
27 - The Beatles - The Long And Winding Road .mp3
The Beatles1.m3u>>
The fact that this wasn't the case doesn't diminish my gratitude for your
having taken the time to write (twice in fact) but no: this wasn't the case...
First, I don't have any files prefixed with track numbers like you've shown
here. All of my MP3s use the naming convention "Artist - Title.mp3".
Second, there was nothing "perceived" about this double-sort: it actually
happened! By default the files in this folder (MP3s and M3Us) would be
sorted in ascending alphanumeric order, and toggling "View...Arrange Icons
by...Name" would alternate this alphanumeric sort between Ascending and
DEscending order with the MP3s and M3Us mixed together in either case. But
then executing "View...Arrange Icons by...Type" would send all the M3Us to
the end/bottom of the listing while both sets of file types remained in
alphanumeric order. (I frankly wish it wasn't necessary to have playlist
files in the MP3 folder at all, but it's necessary in order for Winamp to
find them. I execute all my playlists from a separate Playlists folder in
which I've created shortcuts to the .M3Us back in the MP3 folder, which makes
them easier to access than having them mixed together with the MP3s.)
Here's an example of how a portion of my MP3 folder looked after sorting the
files in it by Name only...
BB King - Into The Night.mp3
Beach Boys - Barbara Ann.mp3
Beach Boys - Feel Flows.mp3
Beach Boys - Sail On Sailor.mp3
Beach Boys.m3u
Beach Bums - Upholstery.mp3
Beastie Boys - Mullet Head.mp3
Beatles - Norwegian Wood.mp3
....but then further sorting the files by Type moved "Beach Boys.m3u" to the
end of the listing (after "ZZ Top - Sharp Dressed Man.mp3") in a/n order with
the other M3Us.
As I said, up until a few months ago this sorting arrangement would stay in
place between sessions but now it doesn't want to. One thing that appears to
have MAYBE worked (sometimes these fixes seem to work at first, then you
realize they don't under all circumstances) was a suggestion I ran across
elsewhere in these forums to hold down the Ctrl key while X-ing out of the
window. In the last half-day since trying it, every time I've returned to
the MP3 folder the files have remained sorted the way I want them. I haven't
tried rebooting yet so I don't know if that will affect it.
BTW: I'm not just imagining the fact that this has changed recently, nor do
I know why it would have. Suffice it to say Microsoft's updates DO sometimes
affect the conspicuous operation of certain functions of the OS, like the new
(and annoying) message window "This page has an unspecified potential
security risk. Would you like to continue?" that has recently begun popping
up when user tries to access his TIF caches under Content.IE5 via a shortcut,
and the automatic replacement of the default "e" icon for URLs with favicons
under IE7.
Thanks again for your time, David--and especially for caring enough to send
your reply twice. As I said, the fact that I'd already done precisely what
you were suggesting doesn't detract from the courtesy you've demonstrated one
iota.
Respectfully,
hkeycurrentuser
PS: I really don't need to hear from anyone else who might read this how
f***ed up my taste in music is, or anything else of a non-constructive nature.
______________________________________
"David Webb" wrote:
I answered your original query in your original thread but since you're using.
the web based interface you may have lost easy access to it, so here's my
response again:
You can easily restore/customize this folder and all of its subfolders to a
basic format. Simply right-click on the top folder and select Properties > tab
Customize > under "What kind of folder do you want" select "Documents (for any
type file)", click on "Also apply this template to all subfolders, and then
click on Apply.
I believe that the perceived double sort that you mentioned was actually a
simple sort on the Name field and the results that you see are due to the
alpha-numeric results of the sorting, i.e., track numbers of the MP3 files would
come before the album name of the M3U file as per this example:
26 - The Beatles - Let It Be .mp3
27 - The Beatles - The Long And Winding Road .mp3
The Beatles1.m3u
Originally the M3U file was named as 1.m3u which put it second from the top of
the list. I renamed it for that reason.
"hkeycurrentuser" <hkeycurrentuser@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:B7A32C46-DBA0-4874-8940-9D73F89A2D45@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| Gee willikers mister "Pop," sir...is that right? Golly! What's it like to
| be so smart?
|
| While I'm new to discussion groups (I can usually find all the answers I
| need in KB articles or elsewhere online) since I've been a
| programmer/analyst, hardware technician and helpline specialist for over
| thirty years I've got more advice to offer than I do questions, and here's
| some for you: GET SOME MANNERS!
|
| Out of a dozen replies to some half-dozen posts I've made in the last couple
| of days THREE of them have been rude and disrespectful, like yours--one of
| them calling me "stupid"...and ONLY because he couldn't wrap his tiny brain
| around what I was saying.
|
| IF YA CAN'T SAY SUMTHIN' NICE, DON'T SAY NUTHIN' AT ALL!
|
| Since you make no apologies for your sarcasm I'm not going to apologize for
| my inadvertent breach of discussion group protocol, and after reading "How
| can I post a message to more than one Usenet newsgroup?" what I'm "getting"
| is that such breaches primarily inconvenience the poster himself rather than
| the reader--so how difficult is it to JUST NOT READ the same post twice in
| two different groups?
|
| I realize that since they took Star Trek and "Zena, Warrior Princess" off TV
| prima donna computer geeks haven't had much besides PDAs and Bluetooth
| technology to keep them company, but really: GET A LIFE! A great deal of
| the acerbic sniping that goes on in these "professional" discussion groups is
| tantamount to the prattle exchanged by adolescents in teen chat rooms. GROW
| UP!
|
| "Pop`" wrote:
|
| > Soon's you learn how to Cross-post, many more experts will be willing to
| > help you. until then, have fun traversing all the places you posted to
| > looking for answers.
| >
| > http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/usenet/xpost.html
| >
| > hkeycurrentuser wrote:
| > > I have an MP3 folder containing two types of files: .MP3 audio files
| > > (all COMPLETELY legal) and .M3U playlist files. Until recently I've
| > > been able to sort the files in this folder two ways SIMULTANEOUSLY:
| > > first by Name, then by Type; i.e., the songs were sorted in ascending
| > > alphanumeric order at the beginning of the list and the playlists
| > > were sorted in the same order AFTER the MP3s. Furthermore, all the
| > > files in this folder would STAY arranged this way from one visit to
| > > the folder to the next, and even between reboot sessions.
| > >
| > > Recently though, this two-key sort is lost--not just from one session
| > > to the next but just between visits to this folder. I'm guessing
| > > that this might be a bug introduced by Microsoft during a recent
| > > update since it seems to have coincided with the appearance of
| > > additional sort options in this folder (Artist, Album Title, etc.)
| > > and the DISappearance of the "Modified" sort option.
| > >
| > > I've got my folders (and in fact ALL of Windows) set up in as
| > > "classic" a fashion as possible, but something has changed. Does
| > > anyone know how I might get back the previous, better-mannered
| > > behavior?
| > >
| > > Thanks
|
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