Re: Finally, MS is doing the right thing about Piracy

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Bob I wrote:

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Leythos wrote:

In article <uk9fipP$GHA.1220@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, aka@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx says...

Fact: You have been provided proof that MS goes after pirates, the form the pirates use to distribute means nothing, and you've been proven wrong again.




No, you said that going after on line distributors wasn't new. It is.





Oh, bs, what a bunch of crap. They are going after pirates, it doesn't make any difference if they are online or off-line, they are still going after pirates - the method of pirated distribution makes no difference - they are still, and have been, going after pirates.



MS is as much a pirate as those they are going after. Prove this wrong.




As you have made the accusation, the burden of proof is on your shoulders.

Do research on the patent infringement case brought against MS by AT&T and MS's response as to its defense. MS ripped off AT&T lost and was give a fine in the millions. MS has appealed the the reward saying that they should only pay for one copy of the ripp off. MS made hundreds of thousands of copies. But by MS's reasoning all the others were just copies not the master (Gold) so they should not be held liable for the copies. So by this reasoning I could buy an original make copies for sale and not be held liable for theft as they were only copies not the original.



Apparently you don't comprehend the difference between patent infringement and Piracy, your scenario would be the equivalent of MS wanting you to pay the purchase price every time you used the PC with the bogus copy of XP.


Yes I do. MS made a master disk (Gold disk) sent it overseas made hundreds of thousands of copies and sold them for a profit. They knew they were wrong. That is piracy. They knew they could not sell them here. Now their defense is that US patent laws should not be enforce outside this country. If MS wins this one how much of their product will be produced here?


First please review the case relating to Patent infringement. It's not piracy. Second the argument of 1 disk VS hundreds of thousands is one of interpretation of the amount of infringement based on "where" the infringement took place. As you see, it has nothing to do with piracy.

Yes it is outright theft. If it is interpretation then where the Chinese deemed pirates when it wasn't wrong in their country? Once again patent laws were quoted as why they were pirates.
So I guess it is whose stuff you are stealing as to whether you are committing piracy or infringement. MS argues that US patent laws should be honored throughout the world unless they are the ones who want to steal someone else's patent.
And so if I buy a legal copy then make a copy then burn more to sell they can only get me for the first copy?

Since you feel free to use your own definitions for legal terms, the problem reduces down to the plain fact you haven't got a clue and should refrain from posting.

Don't believe everything you think.

Good day.


see you're missing the point. MS ,and they aren't the only ones, define
what is theft, piracy, infringement, whatever, to suit their needs to fit their purposes not what most define as fair. The way you can tell this is when they go after someone for something its illegal but if they are doing it then its the law thats wrong. And if I am so wrong how about a couple of others who posted replies or links bringing out other things MS has been done and found guilty of privacy in a court in the past.
And since these are only "opinions" then why are you posting, or is this only for those who agree with you?
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