Re: the real reason behind why vista was made like it is
- From: "Lang Murphy" <langmurf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 8 Oct 2006 00:03:45 -0400
I don't know that I subscribe to your theory... that's fine...you're free to
speak your mind.
Ultimately, if you have a 2 or 3 or 4 year old PC that's running XP fine...
yeah, why upgrade? For me, there are two main reasons, and neither one of
them has "Aero" in their name. Improved security. Is it perfect security?
Nah... and it -is- improved when compared to XP. Second reason is using
DirectX to draw the desktop. Less crashes due to graphics fubars and the cpu
is freed from having to draw the desktop.
I admit, I don't have a 3 or 4 year old PC on which I want to install Vista.
But I do have a 2 year old PC that runs Vista as well as, if not better
than, the three new PC's running Vista here. If Vista is BloatWare... then
I'd rather deal with BW than deal with the amateurish efforts put forth by
the Linux vendors. And understand, that is not a dig on Linux. Fine OS if
you want to spend most of your day diddling around with the OS just trying
to change the resolution of your screen. lol.
Lang
"John Jay Smith" <-> wrote in message
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People in here still deny the bloat of vista, the slow speed and crappy
GUI.
Sorry guys, either you have extremely fast machines, or you are stupid.
Stupid as in blind, im not talking about IQ here.
However there is a hidden reason for the way vista was made. It has to do
with economics.
You cant use the same computer for too long. In the past (up till a couple
of years ago) after 6 months or even 1 year your computer was outdated and
old... but after XP, and because of the thermal roof the CPUs hit with
increasing the Mhz,
the computer industry could not recycle its customers so fast.... it was
clear that people that had a computer
2 or 3 or even 4 years old could still use it very well with xp. This is
why I think MS was pressured by
the hardware makers (because they in turn preinstall windows on the
machines) to bloat vista up as
much as possible. I think this extreme bloat is done on purpose.... to
artificially force people to renew
their computers. MS bloated with no real reason.. I am surprised why
people cant see that simple fact....
the needs of the OS are far more than what would be needed for the new
features added.
If the thermal problem did not exist the GHz would have increased
exponentially in the time XP
existed, to 4, 8, 16, and 32 GHz.. just as the speeds doubled in the
previous years..
but its not possible because higher frequencies make more heat.. and the
cpus would fry. It has to do with technology and physics.
So the plan was to make a new OS that would push all the computer industry
forward to sell. Yes its about money of course!
And this happened after they were able to mass produce multicore CPUs...
the solution to the thermal problem with increasing the MHZ (or Ghz). You
see with more cores you can have better cpu power but the heat does not
increase so much as it would if you increased the ghz...At that same point
when dual and now 4 cores are emerging, vista comes out bloated needs and
with glass effects, demanding new computers.
Ati and nvidia wanted in on the game.. MS probably made agreements with
them too, to make the new version of windows look good only if you had
powerful new GPUs. Its not by mistake that ATI and Nvidia wont release its
driver code so open source OS like linux can make drivers...
Because thats what MS wants in return from ati and nvidia! Make the users
need windows because with linux the drivers are not good enough,
and those os look crappy!
So for the people in here who claim vista is not bloated and slow.. they
are delusional... of course it is like this by design, because you cant
hold on
to your computer for too long. You see the market must increase in numbers
of users, but a gigantic part of the market is people who change their
computer..
but with XP around for so long, and the thermal problem, the market was
not selling as much as they wanted it to.
But pay attention to what I will say now. I do not think this is bad!
Although more people will be forced to change computers and they will
put their hands in there pockets deeper... the result will be that a new
generation of far more powerful computers will emerge.
Some will have 12, 24 or even hundreds of cores in the cpu. New kinds of
huge ram and permanent memories that will replace hard disks will emerge.
This would not be possible if we had a OS that would be extremely well
designed and not bloated! lol
Of course this is not new.. this strategy has been used by Microsoft since
day one, and this is why we have so powerful computers now at so low a
price...
but with vista the change was more apparent, striking I would say, because
of the time lag between releases and the stall the chip industry had to
get around
the thermal problem.
So please... understand the underlying things going on.... and at last
agree with me that vista is bloated and slow.... Because it is for a
reason!
.
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