Re: How does a pre-loaded customer reload Windows with no CDs

yeh, your right

let's see, a number of years ago the cost for Microsoft was around 60 cents
per each physical cd,
according to a secret report leaked out. Today, i'm sure that cost is about
90% less. But it doesn't
prevent Microsoft for selling its software for around 100.00 (99 dollar
profit) and proportional on their
sales plan/profit strategy

then the other company (e.g., computer reseller) holds the customers
licensed copy for
an additional charge, when the customer is the most vulnerable and in dire
straits....

but i seems that Microsoft is to blame here for letting the pc company do
this with
their so called "Genuine" software

i need to do some more research before i file this concern, do you have any
ideas..?.
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"Bill Sharpe" <wfsnopam@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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DatabaseBen wrote:
it seems unreasonable that additional cd's are not included with the
systems.

since Microsoft windows is a separate corporation and provides a product
and
provides a unique product key for the consumer and the consumer has paid
a good amount of money for having a genuine copy of windows, it seems
that the
genuine copy should be provided and apart from the computer/product.

I think that somehow the rules have changed and the computer dealer, with
the help
of Microsoft have / are conspiring to cheat the consumer, knowing that a
disaster is
possible and there is no recovery without an additional cost. Between
malicious virus's and
blackmail by the computer company, the innocent consumer is the victim.


I would not buy any pc selling itself off as a windows machine and having
windows installed but marketed with
a disclaimer stating that a copy of the setup cd's are not included as
part of the package deal...

Seemingly, the manufacturer's do not disclose this on their
advertisements....

I think it would be fair for the department of justice to look into
this....



"RA" <noonehere@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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DatabaseBen wrote:

but if i may ask...

why are the cd's not provided?

is there an assurance that the recovery cds will never be needed,
therefore not included?

could it be that the cd's are not included because the large
harddrives may have the back up/recovery files already stored on it?

i don't beleive that vendors will deliberately not let the customer
know they are buying a computer with a licensed copy of windows,
but there are "no cd's included"....

isn't this a deceptive trade practice ?


The Dells I have purchased over the last few years have the option when
ordering, to add recovery cds for a cost. I also had this option with a
Sony purchased within the last few years. There was also a recovery
partition on each machine at no charge.
None of the information about recovery options was hidden in any way but
I think the average user tends to think of buying a pc as being similar
to buying a small kitchen appliance and is fairly clueless about all the
details.
It is necessary for the consumer to read carefully the information
provided when ordering and purchasing so the he understands what he is
getting and what he is not getting. I also think that very few people
read the documentation materials that come with their pc and so remain
clueless about important details until it is too late.




Actually the payment that ORM's make to MS for installing Windows on their
machines is much, much less than what you pay for Windows -- on the order
of five to ten bucks per machine. Still a CD would only cost them
pennies(well, maybe dimes) to ship with their hardware.

Bill

Bill


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