Re: Windows XP OEM

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q_q_anonymous@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
-~Alias~- wrote:
q_q_anonymous@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
-~Alias~- wrote:
q_q_anonymous@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

if you install windows, change the MBRD(or perhaps any hardware), then
install windows again, then there's you're legally not allowed to
instal windows on that 'different' machine. <<<<<<<<<

Correction: 'updated' machine. MS allows upgrading a machine as much as
your little heart desires if you are running an OEM generic version of XP.

With Dell or HP, Packard Bell, et al, it's a different story as those
are branded OEM version of XP and the wise choice would be to stay as
far away as possible from branded OEM XP+Softwarecrap versions.

Alias
I was running under sgopus's assumptions. I see that your position is
different..
I don't intend to take a side yet because I haven't looked nito it. But
to you I would ask.

If upgrading a machine is ok, then surely if you "upgrade" (change) the
MBRD and case, then it's a dfiferent machine. What if you change every
part?
Been there, done that, except the case and the power cord and it
activated on line. Next?

Replacing a defective MB or upgrading a motherboard does not a "new
computer" make. A computer is a combination of many components and MS
has remained vague on this subject for obvious reasons.

If you have a generic OEM version of XP, read the EULA. The word
"motherboard" is not used once, much less referred to as "the computer".

Alias

so the license is vague.

Actually, it isn't. Have you read it?

Clearly the other side agree on that, since
they use a clarification from microsoft to make their case. You deny
that there is any clarification from microsoft, even given the obvious
evidence.

What they post is for system builders like Dell. Please do more
research. Read this for end users or for people who build their own
computers like me:

http://www.microsoft.com/piracy/activation_faq.mspx

If you think the license is vague, who are you to say one way or the
other '*whether* *or not*' changing every single computer part or
certain computer parts makes it a new computer?

Because I am the OEM building the computer and it's up to me what I want
to allow to be upgraded. DUH!

All you've said is
that the term "the computer" is not used.

No, I said the word "motherboard" is not mentioned. Do you have a
reading comprehension problem?


So far it appears that going by the vague license, it doesn't say
anything conclusive! It doesn't even use the phrase "the computer".. So
the best you can say or have said, is that anybody that claims anything
about what the license says regarding which changes are allowed and
which are not allowed, has no case. I think they would agree with
you. They just say they have a clarfication that specifies which
part(s). The MBRD.

Yawn, I am not a system builder and therefore I am not bound by the
system builder's EULA. Further proof is that I have been continually
upgrading three computers and have never, ever, had a problem with WPA.

Alias


fair enough. You've brought in some new evidence, and made a statement
that their evidence clarifying hasn't been applied properly.
You've also said that the lock is technical - WPA. So, this needn't
even be a matter of law. Merely of running a few experiements. Which
you've said you've done.

It's possible that WPA doesn't properly implement the license.

If I had time i'd look into it - the license, clarification, your link,
your comments as to applicability. Suggested tests with WPA ..

Thanks for the many clarifications and concise critical comments to
posts from the other side.

I'm sure it's useful to people. It is archived and available for all to
learn from.

.

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