Re: dot (.) files and directories

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(1) Is "." really a forbidden character?

No it is not forbidden. If it is used as a trailing... it can be tough to
get rid of the folder.

If used in the normal manner, some-name.some-extension there are no
problems.

If used like Boot.ini.txt or WIN.INI and SYSTEM.INI and XP.txt no
problem.

I haven't tried naming any file starting with a dot.

Try it, you get:

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Rename
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You must type a file name.
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OK
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They can be named with a leading period, but not with Windows Explorer. You
have to use a command prompt or some other method. I.e. like MD or Xcopy or
piping to a file.

Do a Save As with Notepad.

Try to save as * No error, just won't save.

Try to save as . No error, just won't save.

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Save As
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"
The above file name is invalid.
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Save As
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/
The above file name is invalid.
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Try to save as \ No error, just won't save.

Save As
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<
The above file name is invalid.
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Save As
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The above file name is invalid.
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Save As
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|
The above file name is invalid.
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(2) Re: filenames with trailing dots

I have two on my machine, .ini File.ico & .index.html

Was the problem created
by the "trailing dots" in the file name?

I think that is a reasonable assumption.

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:1155282492.087132.12740@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
witan <tsr1936@xxxxxxxxx> hunted and pecked:
Wesley Vogel wrote:

The period (.) cannot be the first or only character in the filename or
foldername.

<quote>
Do not end a file or directory name with a trailing space or a period.
Although the underlying file system may support such names, the operating
system does not.
<quote>
from...
Naming a File

https://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/fileio/fs/naming_a_file.asp

<quote>
You may not be able to delete a file if the file name includes an invalid
name (for example, the file name has a trailing space or a trailing
period or the file name is made up of a space only).
<quote>
from...
You cannot delete a file or a folder on an NTFS file system volume
http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=320081

<quote>
XP restricts the use of the * . " / \ [ ] : ; | = , characters in a file
or folder's name. When you try to type a forbidden character in a
file's name, XP tells you:

A file name cannot contain any of the following characters:
\ / : * ? " < > |

This is a very explicit and helpful message. Additionally, XP will not
let you begin a filename with a space or a dot. If you attempt to begin a
filename with a space, the space is ignored. If you attempt to begin a
filename with a dot, you'll get an error that simply says "You must type
a file name" and offers no further explanation.

If you try to save a file from within an application's Save dialog box
with a forbidden character, this is the error message that results:

sample>filename
The above file name is invalid.

XP discloses that the problem is with the file's name, but it leaves it
up to the user to figure out how to resolve the issue. Most users will
probably assume what the offending character is, but it would be much
more helpful if XP simply told user like it does when working in the
filesystem.

The way XP applications handle saving files does not seem to be driven
exclusively by the operating system. We tried this same experiment with
Microsoft Word, which produced three different errors depending on the
different forbidden characters used. We mention this not as a third-party
software example, but rather to illustrate that the operating system
seems not to be in control of how Save dialogs handle forbidden
characters. <quote>
from...
Forbidden Characters in Filenames - XvsXP.com, Mac OS X vs. Windows XP
http://www.xvsxp.com/files/forbidden.php

There are ways around some of the restrictions, but trying to delete the
file or folder with illegal characters can be a real pain.

Using Windows Explorer:
It is possible to save a file as .txt no name, just an extension.

It is possible to name a folder with a space, i.e. no name.

For some of the other restrictions you have to use a command prompt, not
windows Explorer.

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User


(1) Is "." really a forbidden character? There are 20 files / folders
in my computer, with names starting with a dot ".": e.g., ".NET
Framework Config" ".log" (in Program Files\Getright). These were all
created during installation by the programs being installed. I haven't
tried naming any file starting with a dot.
(2) Re: filenames with trailing dots: Last year, I received an email
message with the subject line: "Road Signs , It happens only in INDIA
....." (note the trailing dots) from a friend. I saved it on the
desktop as a file, and it got saved with the name "Road Signs , It
happens only in INDIA ....." Later, when I tried to delete it, it
turned into a zero byte file, and could not be deleted by the normal
methods. I could get rid of it only after using a utility called
DelinvFile.exe, available from
<a>http://www.purgeie.com/delinv/index.htm</a>. Was the problem created
by the "trailing dots" in the file name?

.

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