Re: Transferring from HD to HD

"Point" <Point@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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"Timothy Daniels" wrote:

"Point" wrote:
"Timothy Daniels" wrote:
"Point" wrote:
I currently have win xp home sp2 installed on a single 40gb HD
(master) and
then i have another 160gb HD (slave) with nothing on it. First of
all im
going to partition the 160 into a 100 and a 60 partitions and then i
want to
copy XP from the 40gb hd onto the 100gb partition of the second HD.

How would i go about doing this? (I know how to partition the 160)
but the
transferring bit?


The easiest to use dedicated-to-cloning utility that I've found is
Casper XP. You can use it to clone the 40GB to each of 4
40GB partitions on the 160GB HD, or you can clone the 40GB
to a single 160GB partition on the new HD. I use the former
option to keep multiple backup clones on backup HD that I have
in a removable tray that slides into a "mobile rack" in the PC.
By having multiple entries in each partition's boot.ini file, I
can
set any partition "active" and then use it to boot any of the
multiple
clones in the backup HD, or I can use the boot.ini file in my
primary
system HD to boot any of the clones in the backup HD. That option
of cloning single partitions to a HD that already contains other
partitions can only be done by Casper XP and Ghost 9 and 10
among the major backup utilities that can make clones (Acronis'
True Image will only use the *entire* surface of the destination
HD
for clones). I believe that restriction is present in the backup
utilities
offered by the major hard drive manufacturers, as well.

If you want to try Casper XP for a no-obligation free 30-day
trial,
you can download a copy from www.FSSdev.com/products/casperxp/ .
It will work for 30 days, and if you want to use it after that,
you'll
have to pay FSS $50 and they'll send you an activation number.
I have Drive Image 7.1 (the utility that Symantec bought and
renamed
"Ghost v.9.0"), and I much prefer Casper XP for cloning.

When you make a clone of any OS in the WinNT/2K/XP family,
do as Ron Sommers says - disconnect the "parent" HD first
before booting up the clone for the 1st time. This prevents the
clone from seeing its "parent" and getting permanently (but
subtley)
confused. Thereafter, you can run the clone at any time with its
"parent" OS visible to it, and there won't be a problem. When you
remove the source HD, the BIOS will automatically make the next
HD in the HD boot order the boot HD, so you don't have to readjust
the HDs' jumpers to start up the clone. Thereafter, you can use
either multi-booting via entries in the boot.ini file, or you can
re-set
the HD boot order in the BIOS to boot any of the clones.

If you want to understand the syntax of the boot.ini file, you'll
have
to have a grip on the meaning of "rdisk()" in the ARC paths - part
of each entry in boot.ini. To understand "rdisk()", Google for
the
thread 'meaning of "rdisk()" ' with Timothy Daniels as the author
in January of this year in alt.sys.pc-clone.dell:
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.sys.pc-clone.dell/browse_thread/thread/89410e99d968fed2/173931e294f2a9f0?lnk=st&q=insubject%3Ameaning+insubject%3Aof+insubject%3A%22rdisk()%22+author%3Atimothy+author%3Adaniels&rnum=1&hl=en#173931e294f2a9f0

*TimDaniels*


The casper program sounds good but before i try that i just need to
know
this. I now have partitioned the 160GB HD into a 100Gb and a 60GB.
I have some software from Maxtor (the make of both HD's) that lets you
copy drive to drive, its called 'Maxtor Max Blast 4'. If i use that
will it let
me copy the whole partition of Xp across to the new HD and keep it
working cause to me it looks like it only copies certain files and
folders?

If not il try casper.


My experience with the previous version of Maxtor's utility, MaxBlast
3,
was disappointing so I switched to Drive Image. As I recall, MaxBlast 3
would only let you copy to the entirety of the new HD - perfect for
people
who are simply moving a single partition to a new HD and want the new
partition to fill up the HD. I don't know how it would handle 2 or more
partitions, but I'm sure it couldn't put a partition among other
partitions
already on the destination HD. Since Maxtor's goal is to sell bigger and
bigger HDs to people, I assume that MaxBlast 4 would move everything
to the new HD so people could dump the old HD. It wouldn't hurt to give
MaxBlast 4 a try if what you want on the new HD is your WinXP in a
160GB partition. If it doesn't work, then download Casper XP - which
*will* work.

*TimDaniels*


Hey

I looked at casper Xp and this is what they say on their site:

30-day trial version of Casper XP. While fully operational, this trial
version does not provide support for volume resizing. For example, using
the
trial version of Casper XP to copy a 10GB drive to a new 100GB hard disk
will
result in a 10GB copy being created on the 100GB hard disk; the additional
90GB of space on the new hard disk will remain unpartitioned space. This
is
only a limitation of the trial version. The full release version of Casper
XP
will permit the copy of the 10GB drive to be resized to 100GB, making the
additional 90GB of free space on the drive available for new files,
folders,
and programs. Casper XP is designed specifically for Windows XP and 2000
systems. For Windows 95, 98, or ME, use Drive2Drive.

Well the partition i want to copy is 20gb and i want it to take up 100gb,
so
thats out of the window.

Another thing, with the maxtor software, you have to choose a source and a
destination path. Should the source be the 'C' Drive? and the destination
the 100gb partition, which happens to be called 'DRV2_VOL1'. Or will
copying
the C drive just copy the files and mess up overall causing it not too
boot
or something?

Thanks

Cloning/hard drive copying software requires an empty/free space
target/destination, not a previously made partition.
HD manufacturer's cloning software copies the entire hard drive, not just
one partition.
40GB has become 20GB since the OP.
--
Jonny


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