Re: OT: Unsolicted Email from NG Participants

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"Rhonda Lea Kirk" <rhondalea@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Steve N. wrote:
Leythos wrote:

You didn't need a gun/weapon because others were willing to make the
sacrifice for you.

Steven Mark Nielsen, Petty Officer 3rd Class, Aviation Electronics
Technician, USN, Serial Number ###-##-####, Attack Squadron VA-195,
USS Kitty Hawk, Viet Nam veteran. Does the mining of Haiphong Harbor
ring a bell? I helped end the war, I volunteered and I didn't have to
kill anyone to do it.

Now, what were you saying?

Steve N.

In a perfect world, borders would be open, and everyone would be free to
live as they choose short of infringing on the right of others to live as
they choose.

Rational anarchy at its finest: "my right to swing stops at the end of
your nose."

I believe in it, and if I could see a way--short of shooting them all--to
stop the narcissistic, control-freak b@stards who are determined to make
others live their way, I would speak out for it relentlessly.

In the meantime, however, I grew up with the idea that there are
responsible uses for firearms, although I don't see a whole lot of
responsible people with firearms today. Still, I don't see what guns in
the home has to do with guns in war. But if we're going to mix the two up,
then I will say that regardless of how our government misuses our young
men, the reason most of them fight and die is to protect what they hold
dear.

Most recently, one of my tribe has died in pursuit of that goal and
another has lost his leg. I do not believe our government is on a very
steady course at the moment, but I do wish to distinguish between those
who fight and die for an ideal, and the businessmen at home who send them
to fight for oil and power and whatever else will line their pockets. I
don't believe that I am being protected by the sacrifices made by my
friends, but I do believe that my protection was their goal and intent.

The only thing this has to do with your post, Steve, is that I thank you
for your service. For the rest of it, I'm just responding generally to the
general mishegoss in this thread. I no longer read Leythos' posts unless
someone else responds to him, but someone always does, and it drives me
crazy the way he can muddle two very separate issues (in this case, guns
in war and guns at home).

rl

P.S. My father was a Marine who was disabled in the Korean conflict.

--
Rhonda Lea Kirk

Insisting on perfect safety is for people
without the balls to live in the real world.
Mary Shafer Iliff


The point you missed is that guns in war are guns at home. Without an army,
you are the army. I guess you never learned about the history of the USA.
When the country was first founded, every man had a gun in his home and used
it to protect the land from foreign invaders. You don't realize that need
for guns because we have secured our land from foreign invaders. We reached
the point where we can assign a few hundred thousand men to fight against
any who might try to forcibly take or destroy our property while a few
hundred million live here peacefully. If any try to march into our land,
the army is there with guns. If any try to break into your home, police are
there with guns. If you don't own a gun, you're simply saying you trust
your guns to those other people. You hope the people with guns assigned to
protect you don't get out of control and turn against you. The same goes
for Steve. Being in the military, you are assigned a gun. You may never
have to use it, but you support those who do. Those who are not out there
physically supporting the people who protect us with the guns are either
financially supporting them or living off the charity of those who do.

In an ideal world, no one needs guns. Our world is far from ideal. You
either own a gun to hunt and protect your family, or trust someone else to
do so.


.

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