Re: WGA Ain't So Bad
- From: "Jeff" <jeffwhat44@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 12:18:48 -0400
Um,
I think you miss the point;entirely.
Most people don't see that they have the opportunity to NOT download
KB905474. The way KB905474 is distributed;does IN FACT classify;by MS own
standards; as spyware. As to your claim that you have a choice; I would beg
to differ.
Ah, MS states that you have an opportunity to opt-in/opt-out of said
download. Technically,yes. If you pay extremely close attention to
updates;as most people do not. Also they conveniently sidestep this issue of
consent;by the methodology of automatic downloads itself. Consent to have
the choice NOT to download KB905474 is inherentedly precluded;if you use
Automatic Updates. And BTW have had this same discussion with the MS
spokesman of WGA;who could NOT satisfactorily defend the method of
distribution as to NOT be spyware. This issue is not about validating said
o.s. ;it is however;one of deceit;convenient "truths" and out and out lies.
Voluntarily submitting oneself to validation is one thing(Windows Genuine
Validation Tool); constantly having to prove that you are not a
thief(KB905474) is however; bordering on harrassement;at best. Using it's
"trust" from the consumer;MS 1) packages KB905474 as a "high" priority" 2)
Tailor's said "high priority" update(wording and all) deceptively similiar
to Genuine Advantage Validation Tool;to the point of which;many people
assume;1) oh;it's from MS so it must be GOOD; or even better; "darn I
thought I already had that;must be an update. And to further the deception;
if you are astute enough;not to download KB905474; the next time you go to
the download site;a bright yellow
module states" You have chosen to hide "high priority" updates;pls
reinstall,or your computer may be at risk!!!
I think you miss the point entirely;that it is NOT the customer that has
to assume the burden of proof.
And would wonder;as I have used the analogy to death; how you would feel
if you had to "phone home" to GM,Ford;whomever; to "validate" that-in
fact;you were the legal owner/lessee of said vehicle;every SINGLE time you
used it? Oh;and without your knowledge;I might add?
But I guess;that would be O.K. with you,huh?
Point being; there is an arguement for WGA;voluntarily;
There is no acceptable arguement;or rationale;that ANYONE could put forward
as to the methodology of KB905474 being acceptable or even tolerable.
Jeff
"Leythos" <void@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:24Ygg.54189$P2.47734@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
In article <eDChJCLiGHA.1320@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, aka@[notme]
maskedandanonymous.org says...
Leythos wrote:
In article <4eitfjF1eqc6bU1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, rhondalea@xxxxxxxxx
says...
My thinking is not flawed, and I did address the same situation.
My EULA specifically says: "This EULA applies to updates, supplements,
add-on components, product support services, or Internet-based
services
components, of the SOFTWARE that you may obtain from...."
It does not say that I must accept these updates, etc., nor does it
say
that I have agreed to an invasion of my privacy.
Yes, your thinking is flawed. There is nothing that says MS has to
provide updates, you personally elected to allow that function for your
own reasons.
There is nothing that states what they will allow you to PULL to your
machine via Windows Updates, you choose to allow them when you enable
automatic updates or when you manually update your computer.
At no point are you forced to install ANY updates, you made the
decision
to install/allow the updates.
You don't have to participate in WGA, but you won't get the benefits
tied to WGA unless you participate, it's your decision.
Translation:
Customer: I don't want spyware on my computer
Leythos F!ck off then.
Great PR, Leythos.
Wrong, it's more like this:
Customer: I fell for the crap being spewed on Usenet that WGA is spyware
and was to ignorant to determine anything about it for myself.
Customer: Do I want WGA and all the support/updates to continue or do I
want to go it without them?
Customer: WGA isn't a problem as my version of XP is legit and I have
nothing to hide concerning pirated products.
Customer: Installs WGA and goes on working with their computer without
any other impact than the time wasted thinking about the tin-foil hat
wearing zealots.
Lethos: Never notices anything that helps Customer from any of the
posters with a anti-MS rant.
Great that people can actually think for their own, that they can see
through the Spyware claims, that they understand the benefits that don't
cause them any heartache.
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