Re: Default setting for "lists" rather than "icons"
- From: tedoniman <tedoniman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 10 Mar 2006 01:03:28 -0800
Sorry to interrupt but this looks about the best place (so far) to make my
stand. Think
I've read most of the relevant posts but not seen any confirmation of
proposed solutions yet. This problem has been a many-years nag for me. Maybe
MS will eventually take it upon their shoulders to come up w/ something
better.
To be sure, I'm going to try Kandy's and Malke's stuff anyway, tho' I fear
that might get a bit too hairy for me.
Yes, I have same/similar problem. So here's my post. If nothing else, it'll
add some support to what others have been posting (as a bonus, I've added
another problem
or two!).
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10-Mar-06 / Windows Explorer General
Subj: Folder View & HTML File Copy problem.
Spec: WIN XP PRO (SP2), 256 MB RAM, Celeron 2.66 GHz | Explorer
6.0.2900.2180
| I/E 6.0.2900.2180.
Problem #1.
Windows Explorer in 'Classic View' and w/ Folder Options set as desired
("Details" & "same for all folders"), sometimes won't remember these settings
and often comes up in "Thumbnail view" in right (sub-folder / file) pane.
Desired
View at all times is Explorer Bar, Folders. Details. I can do without all
the other
fancy views for at least 99.9999 % of the time (meaning: always - 1). They
also
take up too much space and make it harder for me to quickly pin down my
target. Give me the old alphabetical listing anytime.
Notice that in this case I'm saying: "sometimes" - not "always". If it were
"always",
things might be a bit more straightforward. But no; with me it's almost
always an
intermittent - the worst kind.
This has been a long-standing problem for me (maybe just my luck) - back as
far at least as Win 98.
The settings never seem to hold for very long before all reverts to a default
setting, which some MS Programmer liked and decided was AOK for the rest of
humanity. I prefer to see all the file specs (details) at a glance, before I
open it, so there's no screw up and no more time wasted.
(By the way, I don't suppose there's any way to, in a mixed 'file and
folder' folder,
to click the 'name' column and get both the upper 'file list' and the lower
'folder list'
to both come up in alphabetical order, from top to bottom. For some reason
only
known to God and Microsoft, the folders in that mixed 'file & folder' pane
view always
come up listed in backwards alphabetical order when the files, at top, are
listed in
the sensible order. Well, if there is a simple way - and there probably is -
wouldn't it
be more sensible and practical to make the "default" listing fully
alphabetical in the
same direction?).
Problem #2.
When I want to move HTML files (saved from web) from one to another folder
(complete - those w/ the usual 2 components per file - the prime file and the
yellow graphics support-files folder), Windows Explorer copies only the 'prime
file' - not both components, as is usual in XP.
That is to say, I should only have to select the 'prime' file to copy / move
and this should automatically also copy / move the correct graphics support
folder attached to that file or web page. At least that's the way it usually
worked. Now I have to wade thru the support-folder listing to find the right
one (of 100) for the file and select it also, before I can copy/move the
file out.
Wonder if this is due to a corrupt memory, Registry, Explorer or Windows.
Any help or info greatly appreciated.
Ted...
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"Keith Miller MVP" wrote:
Hmm...That looks right (details view, status bar off). Not sure why it's not working as it should..
Your other folders are closed when you're applying this, right?
You could try David Candy's method to clear explorer's mind:
news:u#$W2k3NGHA.2916@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
If that doesn't do it, as a workaround, another method to enforce a default view would be to create
an 'AllFolders' key in the registry, you can do this per-user or per-machine.
The following would give you details view with status bar off for the current user:
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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\ShellNoRoam\Bags\AllFolders\Shell]
"WFlags"=dword:00000000
"Status"=dword:00000000
"Vid"="{137E7700-3573-11CF-AE69-08002B2E1262}"
"Mode"=dword:00000004
------------------------------
The following would set details as machine default:
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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Shell\Bags\AllFolders\Shell]
"WFlags"=dword:00000000
"Status"=dword:00000000
"Vid"="{137E7700-3573-11CF-AE69-08002B2E1262}"
"Mode"=dword:00000004
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Note that the under HKCU, the 'AllFolders' entry will be deleted if 'Apply to all folders' or 'Reset
all folders' is used.
--
Good Luck,
Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows XP Shell/User]
"Pankratz93" <Pankratz93@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:1665FC94-A0C8-4FEF-B78A-5068F5C32F5E@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
yes - I see that in the registry.
Name = Settings
Type = REG_BINARY
Data = 08 00 00 00 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 77 7e 13 73 35 cf 11 ae 69 08
00 2b 2e 12 62 04 00 00 00 0a 00 00 00 43 00 00 00
"Keith Miller MVP" wrote:
With an explorer window in details view, Tools -> Folder Options -> 'View' tab -> 'Apply to all
Folders' should do the trick. When you do this, the value created in the registry is named
'Settings' and is found under the key:
"HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Streams"
Do you find that in the registry after using 'Apply to all...'?
--
Good Luck,
Keith
Microsoft MVP [Windows XP Shell/User]
"Pankratz93" <Pankratz93@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:6FF8BA79-5FA4-49A7-827D-01110E082AD3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Does this work if you are not the administrator on your machine? We got new
XP machines recently and it really bugs me to have to change to list DETAILS,
but I tried how it was suggested and it does not change for all folders? It
stays for the folder specified, but any time to go to a new folder, I have to
respecify to display by DETAILS.
"Malke" wrote:
George wrote:
I don't see anything that allows me to set the DEFAULT display to
"lists." The system seems to assume everyone wants big sized icons.
All of my XP machines (and all of my clients' machines) have the List
option. Yours does, too. Double-click My Computer, the View>List. Now
go to the Tools menu>Folder Options>View. Click "Apply to all
folders".
Yes, that does it! Thank you very much Malke.
You're most welcome, George. I also like the List view best.
Malke
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MS-MVP Windows User/Shell
Elephant Boy Computers
www.elephantboycomputers.com
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