Re: Defrag doesn't

Tom,

It beats the heck out of me why those files will not defrag.

I wouldn't touch Symantec / Norton with a ten foot pole.

If you want to try a 3rd party defragger, try Raxco's PerfectDisk.

http://www.raxco.com/

http://www.raxco.com/products/perfectdisk2k/

MS' defrag is a scaled down version of Executive Software International's
defrag (now Diskeeper Corp.)

http://www.diskeeper.com/defrag.asp

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:O0E3kpJPGHA.1760@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
Tom Ellison <tellison@xxxxxxxxxxx> hunted and pecked:
Dear Wesley:

I have removed many files from the hard drive. I now have 41% free space,
and I still cannot compact these files.

I seem to recall the Symantec / Norton utilities do a much better job of
defragmentation. Any comments?

Tom Ellison


"Wesley Vogel" <123WVogel955@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:%23MWiv7wOGHA.536@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Have you tried compacting database (Access MDB)?

Defrag & Free Space

[[A volume must have at least 15% free space for defrag to completely and
adequately defragment it. Defrag uses this space as a sorting area for
file
fragments. If a volume has less than 15% free space, defrag will only
partially defragment it. To increase the free space on a volume, delete
unneeded files or move them to another disk. ]]
Defrag

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/defrag.mspx

[[Although the defragmentation tools can partially defragment volumes
that have less than 15 percent free space, for best results delete
unneeded files
or move them to another volume to increase the free space to at least 15
percent. You can also use the Disk Cleanup tool to delete unnecessary
files. For more information about Disk Cleanup, see Windows XP
Professional
Help.]]
Before Using the Disk Defragmentation Tools

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/reskit/prkd_tro_oegv.asp

[[After you defragment a volume, you can view the defragmentation report
to
see the results. The report includes a list of files that remain
fragmented
(having two or more fragments). Some reasons that a file might remain
fragmented include:

• The volume lacks adequate contiguous free space to defragment all
files. Disk Defragmenter requires at least 15 percent free disk space to
completely
defragment a volume.]]
From...
Files That You Cannot Defragment

http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/Windows/XP/all/reskit/en-us/Default.asp?url=/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/reskit/en-us/prkd_tro_ldtg.asp

About compacting and repairing an Access file
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HP052727261033.aspx

Compact and repair an Access file
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HP051874491033.aspx

Defragment and Compact Database to Improve Performance
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/288631/EN-US/

Troubleshoot compacting, repairing or recovering an Access file
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/assistance/HP051883161033.aspx

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:uN33yvwOGHA.456@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,
Tom Ellison <tellison@xxxxxxxxxxx> hunted and pecked:
WinXP Pro

I suspected my database (Access MDB) was not operating anywhere close to
optimally, probably due to fragmentation.

Using the defragmenter, I defragged the drive.

When defragmenter finishes it shows 6 large and very fragmented files in
a
list "Files that did not defragment:"

The one file I wanted defragmented is in this list. Statistics are:

Fragments: 11,045
File Size: 1.88 GB

All the files that did not defrag are 1.5 - 3 GB and are horribly
fragmented, with 3000 to 15000 fragments.

There is 7.6 GB free space, much larger than any of these files.

Repeated defragmenting does no more to remedy this.

Do I need more free space before I can defrag these?

I have shut down SQL Server Services, which might otherwise have been
accessing these files. Can I also check for other possble causes why
they
may be open? Computer Management/System Tools/Shared Folders/Open Files
shows no files open. This is only for sharing, right? Where could I
look
for locally opened files?

Thanks!

Tom Ellison

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