Re: Minimized application disappeared if explorer is not running

Beats me.

Pretty soon I am going to have to get SP2. MS is pulling Service Pack
Support for SP1 on 17-Sep-2006.

[[Product Name: Windows XP Professional Service Pack 1
General Availability Date: 30-Aug-2002
Service Pack Support Retired: 17-Sep-2006

Product Name: Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2
General Availability Date: 17-Sep-2004
Service Pack Support Retired: Not Applicable See Note
Notes: Support ends either 12 months after the next service pack releases or
at the end of the product's support lifecycle, whichever comes first. Visit
the Lifecycle page to find the support timelines for your particular
product. ]]
from...
Lifecycle Supported Service Packs
http://support.microsoft.com/gp/lifesupsps

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Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:5588DCB8-8059-49C9-B73D-55A1D083E369@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,
Kan <Kan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> hunted and pecked:
I just tried on a XP Pro Sp1 machine, it works like it "always" does, but
not with SP2.
Do I have to change it back to Sp1?

"Wesley Vogel" wrote:

I have Windows XP Pro SP1. I have no idea what happens with SP2.

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In news:DFDD0B34-7EEF-4B01-879D-19F3440BC8C9@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,
Kan <Kan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> hunted and pecked:
Thanks all.

The reason for doing this is to restrict the user to have access to
other parts of the machine, except the two applications we provided. I
use the policy editor to disable the "run" command from task manager -
the logon user can use task manager to see what programs are running
and stop/kill them, but should not be able to start any new programs.
oh, these two application is placed at the startup folder for this
"user name" only. So they can start up automatically when logon.

Wesley,

The old system used was NT4, sorry I din't make it clear.
The new system I am testing now is XP sp2. I did tried before post the
message, it didn't work. And I just tried again following your
suggestions and still no luck. I was hoping these is some setting I can
set to enable this feature.

Is your Xp with sp2 as well?

"Wesley Vogel" wrote:

Which version of NT are you referring to?

Windows XP is really Windows NT 5.1.

Actually you can do what you want. explorer.exe is not running while I
type this. I never tried opening any applications after explorer.exe
was killed before, I never had any reason to, except for the command
prompt. But you can. Trying to open a folder from the Run command
results in an error and explorer.exe starts up.

Open Task Manager (Ctrl + Shift + Esc) | Kill explorer.exe | File | New
Task (Run...) | Type in whatever you want to run

Right now I have Outlook Express (msimn.exe), notepad.exe and
winword.exe running. Everything is minimized except for this message.
So I have three minimized buttons, or "title bars", just above where
the Taskbar would be if explorer.exe were running.

Alt + Tab works to switch between applications, but so does using the
mouse.

Unless you restrict the use of Task Manager anyone can open anything at
all from the Run command. But if you restrict the use of Task Manager
you cannot start anything.

I don't know why you didn't try any of this yourself.

See WTC's post.

But to add to that, I would imagine that you can start without
explore.exe and start your two applications from
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
although I have no intention of removing explorer from
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows
NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon and trying it.

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In news:DEB6F5AD-D8EC-4612-B175-3A35FC26A9B2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,
Kan <Kan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> hunted and pecked:
Hi Wesley,

Thanks for the reply.

Actually, I don't even want the task bar to be present. All I wanted
is to have only my applications showing, no desktop, no task bar and
nothing else. However to easily switch between applications (without
using ALT-TAB, no keyboard, only mouse) is to minimise the current
application and maximise the another. Having a "title bar" at the
bottom of the screen for minimised applications(as what NT does), user
can easily tell how many application are there, and click to the one
he/she wanted.

anymore ideas? I don't want the explorer to run, otherwise they can
get into the files and etc ...


"Wesley Vogel" wrote:

Not that I know of.

explorer.exe has to be running in order to even see the Taskbar. You
have to restart explorer.exe to see the running apps in the Taskbar.

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In news:DEC5E3F0-06A6-436E-8311-DAC988034D37@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,
Kan <Kan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> hunted and pecked:
Under Windows NT, if the explorer is not running (i.e. killed), all
minimized applications will appear at the bottom of the screen as an
title bar.
Is there anyway to have this behave the same as NT under Windows XP?
Thanks Kindly

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