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Antioch Read in your replies.

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"antioch" wrote:

Craig
It appears that I also had a post that didnt.
It was for you.
Here it is again-

Hi Craig
May I take it that your diatribe was not completely directed at me. If not
then a reply to only my comments may have been more appropriate.
I have intertwined responses.
NOT DIRECTED TOWARDS YOU, MEANT TO ALL, KINDA, "IF THE SHOE FITS WEAR" TYPE OF REPLY
"Craig A." <CraigA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Antioch

That is NOT what I said and I do not laugh at people.

Didn't you say 'let the poster be the judge' I DID... THE ORIGINAL POSTER MUST BE A JUDGE ON WHETHER THEY ARE GETTING GOOD ADVICE, OTHER WISE THERE IS THE PAY FOR ADVICE ROUTE. ANYONE SHOULD REALIZE THAT NEWSGROUPS ARE FILLED WITH A MIX OF GOOD AND BAD POSTERS
I suggested 'guinea-pig'
Or was it something else you say you 'did not say'?

This thread has invited over 40 grown adults to come in and mostly
Grandstand when all they needed to do was ignore the thread or only
answer once.

Agree = mea culpa

I have seen some Mature so-called Experts get very short with amateurs
that have come on here looking for a little assistance. They have been
treated rudely and very unprofessional by many of the very same who sit
and judge Pete

I too have seen such unprofessional behaviour.

I don't know Pete from Adam and I have offered advice on these boards
and I have received advice on these boards. I know of a couple of
individuals who do nothing more than all day long just cut and paste web
addresses for
answers and yet they go unscathed. Judge not and ye shall not be judged.

I guess I haven't been around long enough to spot them. They must exist I
suppose.

You only need to reach a tenth birthday or so to have the common sense
even if you are totally computer illeterate to know that when you come to
Newsgroups and see masses of people in them and masses of topics that you
will have your EXPERTS but they will probably be camoflage by any and
every Johnny Come Lately.

Well I'm passed my tenth, and you do not spot them that quickly. Sorry but
a rather inane comment! NOT REALLY, DID YOU REALLY COME IN HERE WITH YOUR GUARD TOTALLY DOWN AND READY TO ACCEPT ANYTHING AND IF SOMEONE TOLD YOU TO REFORMAT, WOULD YOU HAVE? THAT WAS THE POINT.. PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE A HALF A BRAIN TO BE ABLE TO WEIGH THE REPLIES AND KINDA JUDGE WHICH IS THE RIGHT ROUTE FOR THEM TO TRY. OTHER WISE THEY SHOULD BE HIRING A MECHANIC BECAUSE EVERY WILL WRAP THEIR KNUCKLES ON THE ENGINE BLOCK AT LEAST ONCE.

I just can't beleive that people would actually find the time to write
short stories to Pete and preach to him about this and that and etiquette
and the such and then leave this thread and not practice what they preach.

We will have to wait and see if they do that - they might - they might not.
IT WAS A SARCASIM,,,,, GEEZ!
I have offered help and if I see some bad info, I don't cut the poster
down, I post my insertion and let the initial poster sort it out, what
else
can you do? You hope that the person asking the question has at least the
mentality to be able to use some real basic judgement.

Like tossing a coin when you get different answers? TOSSING A COIN LEAVES EVERYTHING TO CHANCE, GOD MAN HUMANS ABOVE THE ANIMAL BECAUSE THEY HAVE TWO ABILITIES THAT ANIMALS DO NOT SHARE, LOGIC AND REASONING, YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO USE THOSE TWO ABILITIES AND IF NOT, YOU REALLY DON'T BELONG ASKING QUESTIONS IN A NEWSGROUP BUT MAYBE A ONE ON ONE EMAIL.

After all they found their way onto the Internet and found the newsgroup...

No I was lead here by the nose - Malke lead me and most thankful I was.
YOU WERE A LUCKY ONE AND MANY ARE HERE ON REFERALS BUT DID SHE ALSO DO THE TYPING ON YOUR KEYBOARD FOR YOU OR WERE YOU ABLE TO ACHIEVE THAT FUNCTION? COMING TO THIS NEWSGROUP IS NOT JUST BY CHANCE THERE IS A THOUGHT PROCESS THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IN ORDER FOR SOMEONE TO FIND THEMSELVES HERE AND HOPEFULLY THAT ISN'T THE ENTIRE LIMITATIONS OF THEIR THOUGHT PROCESSING IF IT IS GOD HELP THEM....
.... and were able to sort thru the tree to the topic that closely matches
their needs, that I > would think would show that moisture would collect on
glass if held under their nose.

Ooops - lost you there. The sciences have never been my strongest subject.
TREE IS AN OLD TERM FROM THE DOS DAYS FOR LOOKING AT DIRECTORIES AND SUB-DIRECTORIES THE OLD PROGRAM WAS CALLED X-TREE AND THAT WAS THE REFERENCE FOR THE NEWSGROUPS SUBJECT THREADS LOOK LIKE THE SAME TREE. MOSIURE ON THE GLASS MEANS THERE IS AIR GOING IN AND OUT OF THE NOSTRILS AND THEREFORE THERE MUST BE LIFE AND THEREFORE HOPEFULLY A THOUGHT PROCESS WITHIN THE GRAY MATTER, IT WAS ANOTHER SARCASISM, MAYNE I AM WRONG ABOUT THE LEVEL OF THINKING PEOPLE HAVE WHEN THEY COME INTO THESE NEWSGROUPS.... SORRY! I WAS THINKING OUT LOUD.
So don't worry so much about the person asking the question,....

If that is your attitude, God help us mortals. But I am selfish - I do
worry if its me asking the question.
YOU SHOULD WORRY AND IF YOU WANT WORRY FREE I AM SURE MICROSOFT WILL GLADLY ACCEPT A CREDIT CARD OR CHECK FOR A ONE ON ONE HELP LINE.
I have done no less than 100 high level formats and re-installed no less
than 6 giga
programs in my learning

Bully for you
NO! I HATE EVERY SINGLE SECOND OF IT BUT WAS A BIT WISER EACH AND EVERY TIME AND THE COMPUTER WAS PUT BACK TOGETHER A BIT BETTER EACH AND EVERYTIME... I EVEN FELL A FEW TIMES LEARNING TO RIDE MY BIKE... THE LEARNING PROCESS WITH COMPUTERS CAN BE VERY FRUSTRATING AND NEWSGROUPS ARE LIKE THE AMERICAN SOCIAL SECURITY PROGRAM, IT ISN'T MEANT TO BE THE ENTIRE RETIREMENT BUT A CRUTCH TO LEAN ON A BIT. DO NOT PUT 100% OF YOUR FAITH IN ANY INTERNET REPLY, SOMETIMES YOU WILL BE VERY FORTUNATE AND OTHER TIMES YOU WILL BE SITTING IN THE MIDDLE OF A RE-FORMAT AND A RE-INSTALL WONDERING WHY THE HELL YOU LISTENED.
and if you think for a single second people who post on these threads are
immune from those types of fates, I guess I have fallen asleep and woke up
in some other demension.

What fates? Must have missed them.
THERE ARE THOSE WHO HAVE AND THOSE WHO WILL RE-FORMAT AND RE-INSTALL.
Shit happens and it eneeds to happen in order for people to develope and
proceed and prosper. It is all about the learning curve. It does and it
will
happen.

So true - one is supposed to learn by one's mistakes - I thought that was
why people come here - after they have buggered their system to learn - not
be given duff info. however well meant.
MANY COME HERE TO AVOID THE INEVITABLE AND SOME LEAVE HERE DOING JUST THAT, BUT SOONER OR LATER THE RE-FORMAT OR RE-INSTALL OR BOTH BULLY WILL CATCH THEM.. THEN IT IS A TALL BOTTLE AND A GOOD ALARM CLOCK.
So lighten up and quit taking newsgroups so serious,

I cannot help but take advice seriously. Cant you remember a time when you
knew nothing about computers and their problems? I bet you didn't take it
all in a light hearted way!
I HATED EVERY SINGLE SECOND OF IT, EVERYTIME A CUSTOMER BOUGHT A COMPUTER AND WENT HOME AND COULD NOT DO WHAT THE DEMO SHOWED IN THE STORE IT WAS ONE RINGY DINGY TWO RINGY DINGY AND HOURS OF GUESS AND PRAYING. THIS WAS BEFORE HARD DRIVES AND THE SUCH AND THE LARGEST FLOPPY WAS A 8 INCHER THAT HELD 500K OF MEMORY AND REAL WORLD HAD A ALL IN ONE PKG FOR ACCT PAY AND REC AND GENERAL LEDGERS AND PAYROLL ETC, ONLY THING WAS THEY WOULD ONLY TALK TO STORE PERSONNAL AND THE STORE PERSONNAL HAD TO TALK TO THE CUSTOMER, I HAD YEARS AND YEARS OF HATING THEM GODANG COMPUTERS, NOW I ENJOY DOING MY MUSIC AND PHOTOS ON THEM AND DOING WHAT ONLY PEOPLE DREAMED OF DOING NOT TOO MANY YEARS BACK. I HAVE STILL HAD TO RE-FORMAT AND RE-INSTALL A FEW TIMES LAST YEAR AND THE NUMBER OF TIMES PER YEAR IS DROPPING BUT I KNOW I WILL ALWAYS HAVE TO DO IT, SOONER OR LATER.
,,,,,,if you all want to take it serious, start your own websites and
control who will talk
and who will not otherwise just do your best not to be a dipshit.

The above I assume is directed at others, as I have not a clue about what
you are saying.
IF PEOPLE WANT TO DICTATE WHO CAN COME HERE AND POST QUESTIONS OR OFFER HELP THEN THEY CAN EASILY OPEN THEIR OWN WEB SITE AND CONTROL WHO IS GOING TO TALK AND WHO ISN'T
you can lead a Bear far easier with Honey than you can with a whip.

Like a horse to water - so true.
NO! LIKE EXACTLY WHAT I SAID.. A HORSE WILL GO TO WATER WHEN THIRSTY I AM TALKING ABOUT BEING ABLE TO CONTROL A BEAR, A BEAR WILL FOLLOW YOU AND PRETTY MUCH LEAVE YOUR BUNS ALONE IF YOU HAVE ENOUGH HONEY AND IF YOU TRY TO GET CLOSE TO A BEAR CRACKING A WHIP, YOU WILL BECOME THE NEXT MEAL, I MET EXACTLY WHAT I WROTE, DANG DON'T YOU BRITS GET ANYTHING?
There are many ways to correct someone but bashing is not on the list nor
degrading, nor insulting nor being rude or ganging up on someone, I
thought I
was on the school playground for awhile, I was reading the first few posts
and thought what the Hell is going on here? It was like someone was trying
to put up a NO TRESPASSING sign.

Yep, so did I - and I am no more proud of myself than you are of yourself
for joining in the virago type discussion. But I don't think poor Pete is
the first????
NO! PETE ISN'T THE FIRST, BUT I TOOK PART BECAUSE SOMETIMES IT TAKES JUST A TAP ON THE SHOULDER TO GET PEOPLE GOING BACK IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. I WAS HOPING I COULD HAVE MADE THE DIFFERENCE TO EVERYONE INVOLVED AND MAYBE HAVE LENT A HAND IN MAKING THIS BOARD MORE OF WHAT YOU ARE EXPECTING.
If Pete bothers you ignore him or try to offer some help, if you really
want to be a helpful person, be helpful to everyone, Lead by example.

Now you are putting words into my mouth - unless the comment is directed at
others!
No Pete does not bother me despite what has been said about him. You may
agree, it has been rather pathetic. I have no axe to grind about his
grammar, poetry, syntax or rhetoric. I have offered him help as well. Its
in my nature to do so having spent many years in public service. I know of
no other way in life. I must be leading
by example then.
YES! YOU ARE AND I HAVE NO BEEF WITH YOU CUZ YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE I REFERED TO AS DECENT AND OFFERED A LITTLE HELP.... I DON'T KNOW WHY THIS POST YOU QUOTED ME AS SAYING HERE DIDN'T STAY, I CAN NOT SEE IT ON MY COMPUTER AND I ONLY JUST NOW SAW IT AGAIN IN YOUR QUOTES. BEFORE ANYONE STARTS RUNNING THEIR MOUTHS ABOUT ME USING ALL CAPS, THIS POST IS MEANT FOR YOU AND I USE CAPS FOR MY REPLY TO STAND OUT. IF IT ANOYS ANYONE ELSE TSK TSK IT IS A DIRECT REPLY TO ONLY YOU.
I trust this clarifies my position - well it should a 10 year old, though
sadly not my granddaughter. After reading all this she would say 'Whatever'
Rgds
Antioch
MY DAUGHTERS ARE OLDER THAN TEN AS WELL AND THEY WOULD HAVE SAID THE SAME
THING, MAYBE THE NEW GERANTION ISN'T TOO UP ON PATIENCE AND A FEW OTHER OF
THE OLDER TYPE QUALITIES.... HONOR, PRIDE, ESPIRIT DE CORPS, HONESTY,
RESPECT, DECENCY AND ON AND ON AND ON

GOOD DAY AND KEEP UP THE GOOD ADVICE AND KEEP AN OPEN MIND




'I have forgotten so much of what I never knew!'


"antioch" wrote:

Craig
Surely you mean let the poster be the 'guinea-pig' not the 'judge' as you
put it.
How can a poster judge the merit of advice if he cannot be sure of the
source. If I was able to recognize the merit of any advice given, then I
would not have needed to ask the question in the first place.
That is why lots of us come here. It is certainly not to compound our
problems.
As I have said before, if YOU see a stupid or wrong bit of advice, then
come
in with your answer - then the poster has a choice and can then make a
decision.
Don't just sit back and have a good laugh at the plight of the poor dumb
idiot given bad advice.
Hope your 'shrudge' gets better!
Antioch
"Craig A." <CraigA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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Pete,

Don't worry about it, there are a few here who think they are the
Allotollah of PCs and I have seen answers that have made me shrudge.
When
people advise others to hook their PCs up to an Amplifier thru the
headphone
jack for one example, they are quite possibly going to fry the guys
INPUTS,
but some people feel if the plug fits the hole then it must work... TSK

Do your best, offer to lend a hand and tell them up front you aren't a
rocket sciectist. If you feel your answer is correct then post it as
such.
Don't listen to all of these whahoos, there is some damn good advice on
these
boards and some not so good advice, let the poster be the judge.

Good Luck and keep on trying.
--
I Have forgotten so much of what I once knew.
"A Stranger is a Friend you haven''t met yet."



"Craig A." <CraigA@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
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My last post did NOT get posted for whatever reason so I will try
again.
Etc etc
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