Re: Minimized application disappeared if explorer is not running

I just tried on a XP Pro Sp1 machine, it works like it "always" does, but not
with SP2.
Do I have to change it back to Sp1?

"Wesley Vogel" wrote:

I have Windows XP Pro SP1. I have no idea what happens with SP2.

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Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:DFDD0B34-7EEF-4B01-879D-19F3440BC8C9@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,
Kan <Kan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> hunted and pecked:
Thanks all.

The reason for doing this is to restrict the user to have access to other
parts of the machine, except the two applications we provided. I use the
policy editor to disable the "run" command from task manager - the logon
user can use task manager to see what programs are running and stop/kill
them, but should not be able to start any new programs. oh, these two
application is placed at the startup folder for this "user name" only. So
they can start up automatically when logon.

Wesley,

The old system used was NT4, sorry I din't make it clear.
The new system I am testing now is XP sp2. I did tried before post the
message, it didn't work. And I just tried again following your suggestions
and still no luck. I was hoping these is some setting I can set to enable
this feature.

Is your Xp with sp2 as well?

"Wesley Vogel" wrote:

Which version of NT are you referring to?

Windows XP is really Windows NT 5.1.

Actually you can do what you want. explorer.exe is not running while I
type this. I never tried opening any applications after explorer.exe
was killed before, I never had any reason to, except for the command
prompt. But you can. Trying to open a folder from the Run command
results in an error and explorer.exe starts up.

Open Task Manager (Ctrl + Shift + Esc) | Kill explorer.exe | File | New
Task (Run...) | Type in whatever you want to run

Right now I have Outlook Express (msimn.exe), notepad.exe and winword.exe
running. Everything is minimized except for this message. So I have
three minimized buttons, or "title bars", just above where the Taskbar
would be if explorer.exe were running.

Alt + Tab works to switch between applications, but so does using the
mouse.

Unless you restrict the use of Task Manager anyone can open anything at
all from the Run command. But if you restrict the use of Task Manager
you cannot start anything.

I don't know why you didn't try any of this yourself.

See WTC's post.

But to add to that, I would imagine that you can start without
explore.exe and start your two applications from
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run
although I have no intention of removing explorer from
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Winlogon
and trying it.

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:DEB6F5AD-D8EC-4612-B175-3A35FC26A9B2@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,
Kan <Kan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> hunted and pecked:
Hi Wesley,

Thanks for the reply.

Actually, I don't even want the task bar to be present. All I wanted is
to have only my applications showing, no desktop, no task bar and
nothing else. However to easily switch between applications (without
using ALT-TAB, no keyboard, only mouse) is to minimise the current
application and maximise the another. Having a "title bar" at the
bottom of the screen for minimised applications(as what NT does), user
can easily tell how many application are there, and click to the one
he/she wanted.

anymore ideas? I don't want the explorer to run, otherwise they can get
into the files and etc ...


"Wesley Vogel" wrote:

Not that I know of.

explorer.exe has to be running in order to even see the Taskbar. You
have to restart explorer.exe to see the running apps in the Taskbar.

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Hope this helps. Let us know.

Wes
MS-MVP Windows Shell/User

In news:DEC5E3F0-06A6-436E-8311-DAC988034D37@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,
Kan <Kan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> hunted and pecked:
Under Windows NT, if the explorer is not running (i.e. killed), all
minimized applications will appear at the bottom of the screen as an
title bar.
Is there anyway to have this behave the same as NT under Windows XP?
Thanks Kindly


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